Pastor Jackson Lahmeyer | Why the Church Must Physically Meet and Why We Must Reopen Our Schools (Part 1)

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Speaker 1:
On today’s show. We are joined by the senior pastor of Sheraton church who joins us to share why the church must physically meet. Even while we were surrounded by this coven chaos,

Speaker 2:
Some shows don’t need a celebrity in a writer to introduce the show, but this show does to man eight kids. Co-created by two different women, 13 multimillion dollar businesses, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the thrive time show. [inaudible]

Speaker 1:
Right nation. We are in the air everywhere. And dr. Z, I’ve got a new thing I want to show you. Oh, okay. Have you go to thrive time, show.com real quick. Go to thrive. Time show.com. Okay. And I’m not exaggerating. I’m North of 2000 hours in on this. Okay. Uh, my time, my team’s time. And if you go there and you click the COVID chaos, but COVID chaos, but I’m on it. Okay. And you see it now there, what I’ve done is I’ve archived and organized everything wow. To press them all. So if you click any of these subjects, it takes you to the truth about the vaccine. Bill Gates, the truth about bill, bill Gates, being buddies with Jeffrey Epstein. The truth about Al Gore calling for a global reset. The truth about nefarious Neil Ferguson and his doomsday models that said 2.2 million Americans might die.

Speaker 1:
The truth about the deadliness or lack thereof of COVID-19 the truth about the case inflation the truth about the COVID-19 treatments from dr. Bartlett, who we’ve had on the show. The truth of why the social media is being sensor is censoring churches. Why churches aren’t allowed to peaceably gather in California and many other States. The truth of why my Amie is now wanting all citizens to wear masks in their homes. Crazy. The truth about why Neil Ferguson and his organization, the Abdul Jameel Latif Institute that predicted 2.2 million Americans might die, was funded by the very man has benefited from the lockdown. The most Jeff Bezos, the truth about dr. Phony Fowchee. The truth about the mask mandates the truth about the mandated government shutdowns. Lot of truth on there. There’s a lot of truth. It’s all cited. You just go to thrive time, show.com. You click on the COBIT chaos button. It’s all there. So that’ll set you free truth. The truth will set you free will set you free. I just, we just interviewed a dr. Ben Carson, there was able to get into his schedule. I just that show out today. We’re getting big time guests, dr. Bartlett, a top advisor for governor Perry in Texas for seven years. Yeah. We’re getting big time guests on the show. And they’re all saying the same thing

Speaker 3:
We’ve been lied to. We’ve been lied to and yeah,

Speaker 1:
No, but I remember back when this all started,

Speaker 3:
Okay. That it was China that lied to us. Remember everybody was like, we don’t know the truth. We don’t know the truth. [inaudible] district. We don’t believe them for one

Speaker 1:
Aye. ODA. We do not.

Speaker 3:
Even if they told us the truth right now of what happened and the numbers and whatnot, we’d be like, we don’t believe you.

Speaker 1:
And then it was this. It was said because the virus is so contagious and lethal, lethal. We have to shut down all businesses for two weeks to pause, because we don’t want the hospitals to be overwhelmed. The curb, that was the name. And then it’s like, well, now it’s not as lethal. Now what we need to do is we need to be shut down just because the cases are rising. So the cases, the cases, right? Yeah, of course. It’s flu season. And we got the flu out there. Folks it’s going to happen. But the desert going up, in fact, the CDC removed it from being called a what pandemic pandemic. And then we found out the CDC, isn’t actually part of the government, believe the CDC. And then this is one of my favorite. Oops. Of all time. I say all this before we introduce today’s guest, this is interesting. Oh yeah. July 24th came. It comes out. It’s reported here. You can see this on the blaze.com a health company apologizes for falsely telling 600,000 members of the military that they had. COVID 600,000. Are you kidding?

Speaker 1:
Ooh. Oh, Oh, wait. I clicked the button and said guys, real quick. I just want a quick announcement. Everybody in the military needs to be shut down. We all need to be shut down when you shut down the military because there’s 600,000 of y’all that have COVID you’re spreading thing. It’s a dangerous little bugger about life, big old bug. It’s not the flu. Comparing it to the flu. It’d be like comparing a kind of example. All lives matter. You can’t do that. Can’t do that. You saying this is like the flu is like saying an atomic bomb is like a Skittle. You know, the crunches in your mouth. And if you think you want to keep a country open, if you’re stupid, if you’re religious, we’re going to shut you down. What’s a life worth to you. Now I’ll tell you this. You want profits over, over a safety. Is that what you want? [inaudible]

Speaker 1:
all the money. And then, and then the, and then they, then they call you and then they call you. Excuse me, dr. Z. I have a quick, are you free, sir? Excuse me, dr. T I’m not free, but I’m a really good value. I know. I just said all that last week, but now I just want to do a quick retraction. Quick, quick, quick. I was wrong about everything. I apologize for falsely telling you other than the fact that there were 600,000 number. I worked for Lance sit where the people that came out with the report that said that that hydroxy chloroquine was dangerous. Yeah, but I wanted to retract. I was wrong. I was wrong. Wrong. I just I’ve just, and so, but we need to go ahead and stay, shut down. Now, shut her down. I need to wear a mask because just because, cause what’s a life worth to you that cause profits are for people, kill people and to kill her killer, you’re going to wear a mask.

Speaker 1:
Now here’s the deal. If you don’t want to wear a mask, you gotta join the black lives matter riot. Yeah. And because if you do come to a black lives matter riot, it won’t, it won’t matter. Won’t spread the virus, spread it because um, George Soros is funding. It will, of course he in, because George Soros is an espouse Nazi. He came out and said, he’s a Nazi. He’s 14 years old. He did it on 60 minutes because of that. That’s why the virus is dangerous. If you, if you that’s the kind of jackass that’s been going on for a long time. So I said, you know what? Let’s reach out to a pastor who is unapologetic, unapologetic about speaking the truth. Well, he’s protecting, she’s apologetic, your religious freedoms, pastor Jackson, welcome to the thrive time show. How are you, sir? I’m well, thanks for having me. I’m in the cave today. Hey, what is the name of your church? Sheridan church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Where’s uh, where’s that located? 41st in Sheridan. And it’s called Sheridan church. The very creative name. I know, right. Been around 69 years. You know, the year I lived down there,

Speaker 3:
Dallas area lived in a community called Capell, which is a suburb of Dallas and yeah, yeah. Have a great Thompson. And there was, there was a church I was going to at the time

Speaker 1:
And they were going to move. But they were named

Speaker 3:
From the city that they lived in there, like flower mound church, or, you know, I forget the actual name of it. Now I’m trying to think, well, what was the name of the church? Um,

Speaker 1:
Pell Vangelis at center or whatever, you know, but they were

Speaker 3:
Outgrew their building. They’re doing really great, great, great people.

Speaker 1:
And then we’re going to move to the, the, the building they bought was actually in another city, in another, whatever, you know, did they team up with the geniuses who are renaming the Washington Redskins, Washington football team. But it was funny because it made me think of it because

Speaker 3:
I moved over there and I just happened. I don’t know how I got on it, but I was on the little think tank of the pastor. And he looked at me, he goes, do we have to change our name? What do you think, Z? What do you think? And I go, well, um, the Dallas Cowboys don’t actually play in Dallas.

Speaker 1:
You know what I mean? They play

Speaker 3:
Time Irving and now Arlington. But I said, you know, that’s an M your church, the name of your church. It’s okay.

Speaker 1:
I like yellow cleaners. Right? Not all on you. They’re not only yell. That’s right. So if you ever move, you just keep chaired and sh shared a church. So we know this to be true, but I wanna make sure the listeners are aware of this. Okay. There is a gentleman who works in the United States government. His name is Josh Hawley. He’s a Senator H a w L E Y. And at the very moment that we are recording today’s show, he is in DC, dr. Z with your friend, Sean, fight the praise and worship shot. The list is praise more subleader uh, Sean went to DC and what hap what’s happening as Senator Holly has now has irrefutable proof that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and Google are censoring churches. So they’re saying you can’t meet in person. And if you do meet online, we’re going to sensor. We’re going to make it where people can’t see the videos, we’re going to remove actual statements that are made in the videos. Um, so there’s say you can’t meet in person in California. And if you go online, we’re going to sensor that to now that all the listeners know what I know, and I’m going to cite all this. I’m putting links to all of this on the show notes. So all the listeners can, can do the research later. Where’s what’s your stance on all things COVID-19 sir.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
Yeah. So when it comes to COVID-19, we have to recognize it is a virus. A lot of people will say, well, you don’t think it’s a real virus. No, it is a virus, but I don’t think it’s the lion that has been presented to us as it’s probably more like a kitten. And so there’s been an overreaction to this particular virus that we have literally shut down the entire world, uh, for a virus that I don’t know the exact number, but I think he’s like 99.8, 7% chance of survival somewhere around. You may know that number.

Speaker 1:
We have even run it through the kid yet. They’re all going to, I mean, not all, but I mean, you know, viruses the virus, I mean, virus anyway. So let me, let me make sure the listeners know this because I do have the statistics on how deadly COVID is. And I want to make sure that I’m not painting in you to a corner. Um, and I’m, I’m not at all a Zeke’s a lot of times you, on these shows, they ask people for statistics on the spot and it gets kind of weird what you just said. Um, you can, you, you repeat what you just said.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
He’s like a 99.8,

Speaker 1:
7% chance that I’m going to argue with our guests real quick. This is a, this is a, you never want to do this. I’m going to do it according to the Telegraph. I think he might be wrong. The Telegraph reports that school aged children are now more likely to die from a lightning strike than COVID. So I think you have been doors. I think you were thinking it was more dangerous than it is. I mean, we’re talking about lightening now, going off what I’m told, right? I know. I’m just going to say no. So you’re a cautious guy. You’re saying I’m not denying the existence of the virus, not at all. And you’re even reporting the statistics that, you know, to be true that are the conservative statistics. And I’m saying the more people see as the more people get found of having cases, the more cases we find, why is that a good thing to see the more cases, because we’re finding out that the death rate is vastly overblown.

Speaker 1:
Number one, we’re, we’re putting people in the death category that didn’t have COVID or didn’t die of COVID. I mean, it’s all, if you haven’t heard that yet, you’ve been kind of living in a cave. It’s all over the internet. It’s everywhere doctors are coming out. You know, Sean Hannity even did a conversation. A rush Limbaugh did a conversation with doctors and different Dr. Bartlett and just did a conversation with us. It’s crazy how motorcycle accidents are coming in. And they’re saying that they had the COVID. Um, and so we know the numbers inflated, right? And it’s like, I don’t know why somebody with the set of rocks, can’t get up and say the numbers are inflated. But even if we go with those numbers as the number of cases rise, and the number of deaths continue to fall, that’s why the CDC removed. Oh, COVID-19 is a pandemic.

Speaker 1:
They said, we with all of the money was such a low death rate. We can’t call it a pandemic anymore. And because I have some of the most incompetent people on the face of this planet, running our country and these organizations, and it’s pretty impressive, just how wrong they have now. Here’s what I’m going to say. And some of the listeners need to understand this. I know it. I want to get you on the mic real quick here. Cause I want to make sure you get this. I know very nefarious people that I have met personally. Now, Andrew, if you can’t verify this firsthand, tell me, but I wouldn’t let your listeners have some context here. Do you know of the story of the man who pretended to be a doctor I’m with my clients for a, like a month, I’ve heard the stories. Yup.

Speaker 1:
He came in he’s jacked, physically fit guy. And we all know people that are on roids. You can tell certain make and model. He comes in and he’s like, I have a low T center and I want you to help me market online. So is he I’d run it. What’s called a backlink checker. It shows all the sites that link to him. And I noticed that. I said, sir, all is just me and I talking. I said, every site that you’re advertising on is a pornographic website. So I’m not a big fan of helping you to Mark it because I don’t think we’re on the same team. He says, no, I had no idea that I was advertising on porn sites. I just was advertising. I guess a marketing company helped me. I didn’t know. I said, okay, he’s a doctor. Fair enough. Fair enough.

Speaker 1:
And I said, where’d you go to school? And he goes, Oh, I went to OSU, but he goes, but I actually went to the, and he had like a longer story. So I said, John chick, Google that guy, because you can find who’s a doctor. So you can verify certain things. Now the next meeting, I pulled him aside and said, you’re not a doctor, true story. He says, um, well, yeah, I am like, no, you’re not. He’s like, yeah, I am. Yeah. And he said, I am a doctor. How can you dare you, Christian? Wow. He says, how do you, how do you question a doctor, Paul Hood? He goes to Paul Hood for accounting advice. And Paul says, I don’t think you’re a doctor because he’s looking into some stuff. And he’s like, I feel like what you’re doing is your shipping Chinese made steroids to men who are buying steroids on porn sites.

Speaker 1:
And I don’t think you’re a doctor and he goes, so anyway, so this is all within like a very small window of time, but he’s a smart guy. Not smart enough to carry out a lie all the way at the end because the truth always comes out. But I mean, we’re talking about he never. So I think we have some smart people, Z. I mean, we founded, there’s 54 scientists who work for dr. [inaudible] national Institute of health who have now been fired because they’ve been working for the communists for years. That’s some smart people to hide, to hide from, with authorities for decades. That requires, I think we’re dealing with some smart people here who are scaring, good people who couldn’t possibly believe they’re being lied to. Now what I want to do, I’m going to throw a softball your way. Okay. I’m going to get out of the way.

Speaker 1:
And if you want to talk about this for 10 minutes or 30 minutes, whatever you want to do, we have a lot of pastors that listened to the show. Okay? And I’ve talked to 60 of them, maybe 70, not a hundred. Andrew knows. I spent a whole week calling pastors. You saw that all those leads coming in. A lot of phone calls, all these pastors [email protected] and the website I launched to encourage churches to open. And we were able to re you know, ruffle some feathers and get some media attention and get on Fox news and get Illinois opened in these pastors. I’m not exaggerating pastors, Z 60. Plus these guys, I talked to them, I’ve got a list of all their names. Like I talked to him and they said, we’re not going to open because we don’t want to put our people at risk.

Speaker 1:
And I don’t want to be political. And my line was, sir, the Bible encourages people to get together. And Hebrews, it talks about this. Do we need to get together? And I’ll put the Bible verse and just a mom. We need to get together. And the constitution, is it something we suspend? Just, we have a virus. You staying shut is allowing the devil to win. And that conversation has only gone. Well, maybe five of those 60 times where people are like, well, I’m going to trust the experts. Not, not some podcast or that kind of thing. Right? Can you speak to the pastors and to all the people out there who are afraid to go to church who are other, so many people, just sad, afraid to go to church pastors who are afraid to speak about this. Can you just, I want to hear your,

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
Yeah. So the verse that you brought up is Hebrews chapter 10 verse 25, that talks about don’t forsake the assembling together of yourselves. In other words, don’t stop going to church. And a lot of times we co quote that verse, but it’s only half of the verse. It’s, don’t forsake the assembling together of yourselves. And then it’s as specially as the end draws near. And so the closer and closer we’re getting to the end, the more and more important it is that we continue to assemble together. And here’s the thing that we have to realize as human beings. And this is all human beings. We are relational beings created in the image of you, very relational God. And in order for us, not just to barely survive, but to thrive, we have to have relationships, relationships with one, another relationships with our father. And so therefore, whenever we are forsaking, whenever we’re not attending church on a regular basis, we’re putting ourselves in a position where we cannot thrive in every single area of our lives.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
We’re going to barely survive. And so I equate it to a lot of times, a Christian who is not plugged in and attending church on a regular basis is like a fish out of, I don’t know if you’ve ever gone fishing, got a fish out of water, dropped it on the ground. That fish looks like it has absolutely no purpose whatsoever. You’re like why in the world that God created this thing it’s flopping around on the ground, gasping for air. But the moment you take that fish and you throw it back in the environment that it was created for all of a sudden, the brilliance of that fish begins to shine it darks through the water better than either of us could do, because it was never meant to be flopping around on the ground. It was meant to be in the environment that it was created for same way, with a believer, a Believer’s environment is in the context of the church, which is the body of Christ.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
And so whenever I believe her is not in the right environment, all of a sudden the life of that believer is not thriving. There’s just barely surviving gasping through faith. Maybe it goes down there is going to go down because there is this atmosphere that they’re missing the environment that they were created for. And so I like to put it like the destiny that God has for an individual is attached to the local body where he’s assigned them. And so whenever we’re not attending church, or whenever we’re not opening our doors, we are doing a tremendous disservice to our people. And we’re thankful for technology thankful that we can do Facebook, live YouTube, all that kind of stuff that we can stream our services. But at the end of the day, we have to be honest with ourselves. Online church is not the gathering together of the saints.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
That’s just a bottom line fact. Now you can try to spin it any way that you can. And I, like I said, our church we’ve been doing online services for years. So this is not something that came because of the pandemic. We’ve been doing it for years as a way to reach more and more people. And for those who may not be able to come every single Sunday, that they have a way to get plugged in, but consistently a missing church, because one you’re not allowed to, or just simply because you’re afraid to, uh, you’re hindering yourself spiritually. I’m going to read to you, okay.

Speaker 1:
A documentary. I never thought I would have any of these kinds of discussions. What did you be able to read a document? Well, I mean, we’ve had, this is a business show and people have asked me, why, why do you cover this? Unlike a third of your shows? And I say, wow, and Jeff, I’m sure you’ve heard some of our shows like this, but no one else has really talking about it. I mean, people are totally avoiding it. Um, I have asked, and by the way, I won’t mention his last name, but Steve, if you’re listening, allow me to hop on your radio station. I keep hearing I can’t go on because it might upset our mayor. Steve, I’m willing to lose the relationship with you over this book, be on your channel. But this is the thing they’re blackball you. If you want to talk about it. So I’m talking about this because nobody’s talking about this, but this is New York city rolled out their guidelines for safer sex under COVID-19 what? So as I’m reading these Andrew, let’s get a writing device

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
For our pastor here. So that way he can take notes here.

Speaker 1:
And I would like, and you can tell me what you disagree with here in Z. You can take some notes. I want to get your take. I’m just gonna read it to you. Okay? It says all new Yorkers should stay home as much as possible and minimize contact with others to reduce the spread of COVID-19 sex is a normal part of life and should always be with the consent of all parties. This document offers strategies to reduce the risk of spreading COVID-19 during sex. Now it says, this is not true during this right here, during this extended public health, health, health emergency people will and should have sex consider using harm reduction strategies to reduce the risk to yourself. Your partners and community. Here are some tips for how to enjoy safer sex and reduce the risk of spreading COVID-19 one. I just said, I’m reading this to you.

Speaker 1:
It says, this is amazing. It says you are your safest sex partner. Masturbation will not spread COVID-19. Especially if you wash your hands and any sex toys with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex to the next safest partner is someone you live with having close contact, including sex with only a small circle of people helps prevent COVID-19 three. You should limit close contact when having sex with anyone outside of your home. If you have sex with others outside of your home, have a few as few partners as possible and pick partners you trust. I know this is good. And it says, ask them about COVID-19 before you hook up, do they have symptoms or have they have had symptoms for the last 14 days? This is, this is real. This is a real knock. This is no, this is, this is a thing you’re not saying.

Speaker 1:
Take care of during sex kissing can easily pass the virus, avoid kissing anyone who was not part of your smart, your small circle of contacts. The other part is pretty crazy, but this part is crazy. It says where I’m skipping person wear a face mask covering where a face covering or mask during sex. Maybe it’s your thing. Maybe it’s not, but during COVID-19 wearing a mask wearing a face, wearing a face mask covering that covers your nose and mouth is a good way to add a layer of protection. During sex, heavy breathing and panty can spread the virus further. And if you or your partner have COVID-19 and don’t know it, a mass can help stop spread the spread or help, help stop the spread, make it a little kinky, be creative with sexual positions and physical barriers like walls, sexual contents preventing, but a wall close space to face contact masturbate together, use physical distance and face coverings to reduce the risk.

Speaker 1:
I mean, this is transcripts. This is a real firm. This from New York, this is a real document. They are advocating actual masturbation having sex through a physical barrier, whatever that means. They’re a wreck. I mean, can you see any, this is the government recommending this. And I was first alerted to this because I have a client who lives in New York. And he asked me as a Christian, my thoughts on virtual sex. And I said, what? And I guess there are websites now where you can meet people in, on video sex and it’s being recommended. I just want to get your take about the complete abomination. I mean, what, what do you have, what do you take issue with as a Christian in that document? Put out my governor.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
Can you believe somebody was paid to type that up?

Speaker 1:
Whoa, my are tax dollars. I’m just saying, what are your, what are your, what are you, how do you as a pastor, how do you process that level of ungodliness? And maybe where do you take issue with that doc?

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
You know, you’re going to take issue with primarily most of it. Uh, especially just my goodness, the, uh, the stuff you didn’t mention.

Speaker 1:
Are you still on the screen?

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
And it’s probably a good thing you didn’t mention. Yeah, but it’s pretty impressive. Just how wicked and ungodly so much of our government is. I mean, it’s, it’s quite impressive. The state that we have reached as a nation and obviously New York is much further along the path and say Tulsa where we are, but it’s one of those things that gives you pause because you say our nation is in big trouble and you can see the rise of the acceptance or what you’d call tolerance of pedophilia and everything in this as linked together. And here’s why sexuality is so important. We’re creating a God’s image and God’s likeness, both male and female. And there was a great theologian named Carl Bard of the 20th century and heroine, Carl Bart, B a R T, but like Bart Simpson. Got it. So not Barth, but bark and Carl Bart equated that the image of God is actually best seen when a man and a woman, husband and wife is in the sexual act together because it’s there.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
That two are one and they’re creating life. When are you most like God, it’s whenever you and your wife are in the sex act together, creating new life. Well, therefore, if you are the enemy, what is the area that you would want to attack human sexuality? Because you are attacking the image of God. So therefore when it comes to this perverse sexuality, I believe it’s a direct and very strategic and intentional tack of attacking the image of God upon humanity, which is why as Christians we see throughout the Bible, that God has such an issue with say same sex relations or sex outside of marriage. So I have a question, you go ahead.

Speaker 1:
Um, and I get all of this is cited on today’s show notes. Um, Jeffrey Epstein, there’s a Netflix documentary. Have you watched a tie actually have, okay. It, have you seen it yet? Z? Oh yeah. It’s, it’s crazy. Sounds crazy. Jeffrey Epstein is perhaps the most prolific pedophile in American history that we know of, that we know of. He’s the most I got caught. Yeah. The one that everyone knows and when Jeffrey Epstein died or killed himself or someone was murdered and whatever the point is when he died, a lot of people went, gosh, the truth, isn’t going to come out now because Jeffrey Epstein died. And he had this Island that he bought, he had an Island, he bought it on the Island. He would invite people to visit him. And there is this thing called the flight logs, which by the way, are going to be coming out tomorrow and on the flight logs of all of the people that we know for sure, no speculation that hung out with Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 1:
The most, either in his physical presence, on the Island or at his, some of his homes, he had the two names that are the most prolific. And there are a lot of names I’m just giving to give you the names that are the most prolific. There are two, two names. The first person that blew my mind, who befriended Jeffrey Epstein and who consistently donated money to his causes and spent time with him. And often he spent the night at his home multiple times. And see, I know you, well, I’ve never spent the night at your home, but there’s this guy is often, you know, hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. That is bill Gates. Now, would it be wise? Just, are you a father? Do you have, do you have kids? I got five kids, five kids too. What if imagine this was, this was my resume.

Speaker 1:
Okay. Imagine this was mine. I said, Hey pastor, you, you called me about a, a, a babysitter Z. And I found the guy, we found him. We found him. Here’s the one little thing just to see, you know, babysitter.com hangs out a lot with Jeffrey Epstein. But besides that, I mean, he’s a tech genius, kind of an Island guy he’s worth, he’s worth billions of dollars. He’s rich. He’s a really rich, he just happens to hang out with the most prolific pedophile that we know of. And by the way, he didn’t become friends with the pedophile until the pedophile had been convicted of pedophilia. Would you, would you invite that person into your home to watch your kids, not a snowball’s chance in the shale? So why would you, would you recommend that our listeners would take a vaccine created by this man? I would not.

Speaker 1:
Absolutely not. Or would you, would you take his advice on our children going back to school or how about his advice to fundamentally reorg? And he wants to, he wants to make schools now completely online. And this was a very shocking thing. I talked to a mom the other day. We have kids that come over and swim in our backyard all the time. And this mom, I just, I need to be one more vague. She wanted to know if online learning was proven to be less effective and in person learning. And because we have an online school thing, online education for thrive 15. Sure. And I said, yes. In fact, in New York, the studies show that it was something like I don’t exaggerate, but it was well over 90% of the kids never even logged on to their online account during the shutdown. Right. Cause they’re kids. So do you think that the shutdown is healthy for our kids, pastor?

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
Absolutely not. I think, especially going back to who we are as human beings, we’re relational beings. We need relationships. And this whole concept of together apart, that’s an oxymoron either you’re together or you’re a part it’s one or the other, the herd animals. We are social creatures. And, and because we’re created in God’s image and God is a relational being, God, it is very chorus. Trinity father, son. He is a relational being and we’re created in his image. So therefore not just from the educational standpoint, I know the statistics are there proving that in person, classroom learning is much more effective than online learning that that’s an obvious fact, but you also have to look at the social development and growth of the children who are being. And the other thing you gotta recognize is some of these kids are not living in the greatest houses or how

Speaker 1:
Some of these kids are by themselves all day, all day with access to complete digital dystopia, porn, adult content, violent content, both good things and bad things. They’re by themselves. And they’re home with no adult supervision for eight, 10, 12 hours a day. That’s one group of people, even the kids in the best of homes, a lot of them are completely by themselves at the age of eight, seven friends can’t visit. And then people in the worst of situations who have an abusive family member, they’re stuck with them all day. They’re with an alcoholic parent. I mean, these, this is bad stuff. This is bad stuff. So I would ask you as a pastor, what do you say to the pastors that are keeping their churches shut? Like, like there’s pastors in Illinois right now that can open there’s one guy right here in Tulsa. And I know he listens to the show and he has told some people he’s not a big fan of mine because I’m openly challenging pastors. I say, Hey, listen, we’re on the same team. Eventually you’ll recognize you’re wrong. Is my words. I would say to him as he hears the show again, but I’m, I’m serious. This guy is keeping his church shut. He says, we gotta be together apart. That whole thing. What would you say to a pastor like that? Who’s keeping the church shut.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
I get the heartbeat behind wanting to protect your people and all that kind of stuff. Uh, but at the end of the day, I think you’re harming your people because your people are relational beings creating an image of a relational God, and they need the community of Christ. They need to be a part of the fellowship. And therefore, uh, whenever you’re putting them in a position where they have to watch something online, which let’s be very honest right now, those who are watching online are not watching the whole thing. Not entirely engaged. I mean, we gotta be honest.

Speaker 1:
We’re making breakfast, we’re taking phone calls, we’re getting up and go to the bathroom. And that’s one of those things house. That’s what happens.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
You’re not watching, you’re not engaged. And there’s something very different about being in a service with other like-minded believers and the atmosphere of that place that we call church, whatever that looks like. As opposed to sitting in your living room, watching it on your phone and getting a text message. Every three, four minutes,

Speaker 1:
It’s still totally free. We watch at home. They feel totally free if they need to go to the bathroom to get up and do it. And at church they don’t, it’s totally different. Totally different. It’s like, go see, have you been to a movie where you go to a movie with a man who thinks the movie is interactive, but it’s not like he thinks he’s waiting a 3d interactive movie. And it’s like, Oh no, don’t go in that door. Oh no. Oh no dog. Oh man. And it’s like, have you been there with that guy? Oh yeah. What about likes to text guy in the movie you’ve ever been with that guy? Oh yeah. What about church with that guy? Likes to text. He’s like he’s using the Bible app, but he’s actually using the Facebook app. Oh yeah. We’ve all seen that. We’ve all seen it. So you’re saying stuff that’s counter normal pastor Jackson. You’re saying things that that’s not what you’re hearing everywhere. Are you taking some heat?

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
Oh yeah. I hate a lot of trolls online.

Speaker 1:
And they’re saying that you stupid religious people are spreading. Is that what they is?

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
The same people I’m sure. Are you getting that? I’m part of the cause of why people are dying. That’s what they’re saying. That’s what happened.

Speaker 1:
Let me explain to the justification that’s coming soon. I have reason for hope though today, because president Trump is meeting with frontline workers who are all explaining how the numbers of cases are being inflated. The number of deaths are being inflated. Uh, we have the CEO of Facebook, the CEO of Google, the CEO, they’re all testifying today. A lot of truth is coming to light, dr. Z coming along. And I think that’s, what’s going to happen because you pastor Jackson, very eloquent. And you, you, you touched on it very well. Why we need to be in church. And I think the problem is, is the ignorance of the pastors out there that don’t realize the hoax. And it is a hoax. Now it’s a whole lot like you, I know it is an actual virus, right? It does affect people. We have known treatments. We have doctors that we’ve had on our show that have had zero deaths treating their patients. And, and yet we also know that the numbers have been inflated. We know that there’s a, there’s a nefarious part to this. And if anybody listening to me, you’re out there right now does not understand that shame on you. There is a nefarious newness to that, the information that’s being spread about this,

Speaker 3:
And what you need to do is you need to educate yourself and understand that every year, every year, there is a flu bug that comes around the world. And yes, it takes people’s lives. 80,000 people in 2017, 28 car today could take your life. I really was struck by lightening. Could take care of, I’ll tell you something. That’s really crazy. This is a, this is a week I know on the show. A lot of times we give people this kind of a role. I will insert a pause. I’ll pause. I just wanted to say everyday 2,195 kids die from diarrhea. And the third, most killer of this country, 250,000 deaths a year is oops, IO Trajenta. And that means it’s a doctor’s mistake or a medical person’s mistake. People, listen, wake up, wake up, wake up out there. And now that the virus has gone through a lot more of the regular population, not just jammed in nursing homes in New York.

Speaker 3:
Oh thank you. Governor Cuomo for that. And not just, you know, raging in, in, in Italy with the very elderly sick population, um, you know, that’s, that’s what it is. And so, and then the 2.2 million, they were supposed to die from Neil Ferguson, from the Abdul Jamil Jamil jackass. Right? So what I’m telling you is educate yourself, educate yourself. One says, you got to trust the experts. Know you, educate yourself and understand that there, that this is a nefarious and that this idea that if you open up your business, someone’s going to die. Or folks that we take risks every day. The flu is here every day, the flu took last year, 80,000 lives. Are we saying, don’t shut down your churches, shut down your restaurant, shut down your Walmarts because we don’t want to kill anybody dying. 2,195. People are dying per day from pooping, their eyes out, diarrhea, folks, you got it.

Speaker 3:
You got calmed. I’ll calm down. We got to not eat food. But what I’m telling you, you can die from diarrhea. Is that anybody pastor Jackson, that would ever even infer that your actions creating harm to somebody else is a complete fallacy. That’s a lie straight from shell, shell, shell pronounced shell. And what happens is folks is that you have to understand every day, every day we take a risk and we’re not promised tomorrow. We’re not, we’re not promised tomorrow. And if we took the barrier of, you know, you don’t want to put anybody’s life at risk. If that’s your barrier, if that’s your barrier of life, no football, you won’t ever drive a car, no birthday. You won’t ever get on route two, one. You might not even get out of your bed. And he might actually die from pulling out of bed. That’s a real thing. It is. So you just stay, just stay in your bed with your med sores bed. No, that would kill you to live like a bubble watery state where you float around. I know be that you remember that movie, the boy in the bubble. Yeah. Yeah. You’d a bubble boy,

Speaker 3:
Boy. And, and you, you eat just vegan, vegan, organic foods. And you, you do, you do you watch nothing. You don’t turn anything on. Cause of electric

Speaker 1:
Go, fire could start burn down your house. You don’t want to do that. So you, you go completely off the grid

Speaker 3:
And you live your life in a bubble cave somewhere without bears. Cause obviously bears can kill you too. We don’t want a bear in there.

Speaker 1:
Wolves can be dangerous.

Speaker 3:
Fox. Not so much. I mean, unless you’re just a complete yeah. I mean, you know,

Speaker 1:
I want people will be, people are saying here, what do I do? So I’m going to give the listeners some action steps. I’d like for you pastor to give them some action steps as well. Then there’s the practical things. Practical things. First off, let’s use the Google machine Z. Let’s use the let’s use duck, duck, duck, duck, go out there and listen. Right now, Google is tracking. They, they store everything that you’ve searched on their stuff. They do it. So if you’re using let’s use duck, duck go duck, duck, duck, go to duck, duck go. They don’t track. They don’t, they don’t. And we’re searching now for Sean Foyt. I’m going there right now. I’m searching for something. And he has a Sean point.com. That’s the website. And if you will go to Sean [inaudible] dot com and you will begin to share about what he’s doing. You can sign up right now, subscribe to his mailing list right here, go to [inaudible] dot com. He is working directly with members of government to stop the censorship right now. They’re I mean, this is happening today. At this moment, Google, the CEO of Google, the CEO of Apple, the CEO of Facebook. They are testifying about the censorship. So that’s, that’s actually out of a onesy. If we go to [inaudible] dot com and listen folks it’s S E a N F E U C H t.com. Once again, Sean is an editor.

Speaker 3:
I see a N yep. Then as an F, E U C H T.

Speaker 1:
Cool. So you go there. That’s where you want to go. All right. And then that’s going to be where you want to go. If you want to stand up against the censorship. Now, if you want to stand up for churches to be open, because some States that can’t be open States like California, go to peaceably, gather.com, peaceably gather.com. And there you can register saying you want to stand in support with other pastors. And these guys are on Fox news, CBN, one America news, Newsmax. They’re everywhere. Okay. This is a great way to sh is it? This is what’s going to have to have we got, we got to change the conversation. Point three. I want you to everybody to write down this website, go to thrive, time, show.com. That’s our website. And then click on the COVID chaos button and see, you know, that movie, uh, that, that the plan to make a movie that came out the plan, Judy, Mike of it still got deleted. We have that movie. Yeah. We’ll give it to you. Yeah, we’ve got, you wanted to see the facts. We got the facts. You want to see the proof that this is a spoof.

Speaker 3:
We’ve got it all for you now.

Speaker 1:
Good pastor here, sir. Where can people get involved with you? If they want to go to your church, they want to learn more. How can they do that? They can go to our website, which is very easy. www.sheridan.church, www.sheridan.church. That’s H E R I D a N. Dot how many people typically run in your church on any given Sunday before? COVID about 200. Okay. And you’re out there sharing the truth. We’re doing our best. Yeah. We’re having a good time at it. We have a lot of support and like, you know, anything, you have some haters, but the support is way, way stronger. Just the haters sometimes are much more loud. That’s true. That’s true.

Speaker 3:
And Z, um, Hmm.

Speaker 1:
They’re listening right now. And your business has been affected by the shutdown we are trying to find. I think we will find a Z, an attorney, an attorney. Who’s wanting to kind of team up with us. We’re working on it and we’re going to, we’re going to find somebody and uh, we want to also help you, help you get your business involved. So you can email me right now to info at thrive time, show.com, let me know your situation. And we’re gonna try to help you in your area as well. But this is, I appreciate you being bold, pastor. Thank you so much for having me. I really do. I just, I heard her heard what you’re doing and I’m like, we gotta get this guy on the show and Z with that, with that, uh, we’re gonna initiate.

Speaker 3:
Why wouldn’t we are you prepared? We can not tell you what the last 60, 90 days has been so intense. Our shows have been so intense. It has been intense. I know we need to do it. Lighthearted. Just kind of fun. How to grow your business. If you can have your visits, open a show, just so you know,

Speaker 1:
Kind of the mix I’ve been doing here, I’d say about six, five of the seven shows per week are all light and fuzzy and fun. Oh, okay. Maybe six. Yeah. It’s um, you know, but the reason why I’ve done a lot of shows with you about it is because people are telling me nobody’s talking about this, right? Like you guys are like the only, now other people are because Joe Rogan, the Joe Rogan podcast. I mean, he’s a former lefty, a former liberal, a former Bernie Sanders fan. Who’s switched all the way over to our team now because he’s done his research, you know? And he’s been talking about, that’s great

Speaker 3:
Very far. I’m telling you what folks. It’s just, yeah, that’s a, that’s a big shift. It’s all hidden in plain sight. It’s all out there. You know, get off Facebook, get off, get off some stuff and do a little research, start researching some things, you know, and understand what you’re, what you’re putting on your tee shirts and understand what you think you’re standing for. May not be what you’re standing for, which is heartbreaking. And yet it’s going on out there. So, and also understand about this virus. Understand now that the death rates are, it’s not a pandemic. It’s just, it’s not up here. It’s official fair. Go away. Just that’s what’s happened is people are still living in fear.

Speaker 1:
I don’t think people realize that we are no longer in a pandemic anymore. Could you please go? W you said it’s correct, but I want to make sure the listeners know that.

Speaker 3:
Yeah. Um, this was CDCs Windler headlines. About two weeks ago. I believe they said the death rate is so low. We can no longer put this in the pandemic category. You can Google it or duck, duck go it. And actually duck, duck, duck, duck go it. Um, cause they’re watching. I’m

Speaker 1:
Promise you the Google, the Facebook, all these guys. I mean, they’re tracking you and looking at every move you make every Google search you do everywhere you go. Google’s watching you. Oh yeah, they are. Um, so duck, duck goes the new moon. It’s the new movie. It’s kinda fun. It’s got a little duck. It’s kinda, I like that. Ducks are beautiful. I don’t mean my wife will let me have them. Cause they pooped too much. Oh, that’s a shame. Do you have any ducks? I have no ducks, but I got a lot of geese on my land. Oh, that’s dangerous. They’re like the big brother. Big brother ducks. I mean you think about it. If you got a problem with your geese mean you talk, that’s a bold man with the man with the keys right there, man, with the geese, I’m looking for a new duck.

Speaker 1:
I want to get a new doc for the guy we head on with that. The geese problem that he fought the city over. He fought the city and Oh, you’re the founder of paychecks. Paychecks. Yes. Federal paycheck. Everyone should listen to the show. The fatter paychecks, Google kind of fixed it. You look that up on our website. Dr. Paychecks. Great story about, about geese know, duck. Duck goes easier to say than Google for me to birth. It’s so much burden to say that word, Google, because it’s like two syllables that endorse an organization. That’s spying on you. It’s just hard to say. It’s hard to say that duck, duck go it’s easier. Yeah. I know they don’t. The only thing that spies on you more would probably be what china.com or something I don’t know. Or tick tock, tick tock is I understand what you’re downloading folks on your phone to your kids.

Speaker 1:
I’m telling you. But um, what was, what was I ranting on? And we were talking about, we’re going to have to do some lighter shows moving forward. I just want you to know. Yeah. I’d say, you know, right now six out of seven shows are pretty light. Yeah. But I bet you got the wisdom here and you’re telling me what percentage of people, pastor Jackson, do you think out there are just gripped in fear about the COVID is a great question. What percentage you think are just gripped in very good question. I would say the majority, I would say the majority 70, 70, 30. And, and I know a lot of people that have had it. I don’t know anybody that’s died from it. I’ll get it right now. I want it right now. I want it. And I think I’ve already had it problems.

Speaker 1:
I need it. I think I had a bad visit. The day I had one of my clients, a good guy. He calls me up. He’s going to hate that. I shared this story, but it’s true. It’s just clay. He sees me every week, he listens to my show. He goes, I’ve got COVID over the phone like that. Like he’s, it’s like Kramer is like, discovered that he has something in Seinfeld. He’s like, I got it. I got it. And it’s like a panicky thing. God I do. I do. And he’s like talking really fast. And I go, well, you know, you’re not going to die. That night. 9.2% of people who died from this were elderly people with deeply compromised immune systems. And you’re a very physically fit person. Who’s also young. You’re okay. Is it okay? Yeah. You think, I don’t know. It’s just true story.

Speaker 1:
I said, how do you know? He said, why I had a cough and I called in the urgent care. And they told me not to come in because, because I have a cough and a fever. I have covert. Oh yeah. It’s the COVID like I got even, but I won. He has COVID like, so I said, what’d you do? He says true star. I felt so bad. He goes, why? I told my whole staff, we don’t need to be in business for two weeks. We need to shut it down because I don’t want to spread it. Well, now he’s like laughing about it. Cause he’s like, I was such an idiot. I got diagnosed over the phone, over the phone. I got one even better. So, so, so two young, two young ladies that I know very well get in line to go get COVID testing.

Speaker 1:
They fill out all the paperwork, you know? Cause everybody wants to know I got it. You got the virus. So you gotta get tested for it. They’re in line. And all of a sudden, the one friend says, get to causes of what we can’t. We, you the lines long and we’re not going to do it today. Well, we can’t. We got, we got called. So we allow the line. We’re not in line and you go home. They went home three days later, three days later in the mail, both of them got received a letter that said you’re positive for the COVID.

Speaker 1:
Here’s the thing, everybody I know has a story. Kind of like that. A group of young people. I’m not going to mention who they are. I can just say I’m, I’m very thankful, but I don’t know them very well. They all got tested together as some sort of like way to show their support for the community. Yeah. They all had covered all them all. And so it was like, wait, what happened to all these people? Although got COVID. I mean, it’s so dumb. It’s ridiculousness talking about people post these stupid posts. One good one lady. I know, jeez like this Facebook person, she says this, she says, I just survived. COVID and I can tell you it was like the worst. And I, and I know this person’s husband. So I call him. I’m like, dude, come on, talk to me about this. Was it bad? He’s no, she’s an exaggerator. She always talks about everything was the worst. You should have seen the refereed had blood in their eyes. They hate our kids. You should’ve seen the weather. It was like hail the size of a watermelon. I mean, it’s, my wife has an exaggerator and she loves the attention that she posted two weeks ago, she had COVID and everyone was like, wishing you, well, girl, we’re praying for you. And she loved the attention. And now that she made it through, she’s a survivor. She’s a survivor.

Speaker 1:
And he’s like, she’s making me crazy. It’s just that people will have COVID marches. I survived. COVID 2020. I mean, there’ll be, I got to care for COVID DayQuil. Oh, Oh, Oh know, there’s treatments out there folks. And if you do have it, it’s 237 hours. It’s a nebulizer and a steroid that’s FDA approved for asthma. It listened to our Dr. Bartlett. It’s going to be okay. It’s going to be okay. And I just hope and pray that the fear that this situation

Speaker 3:
And the people that are profiting from this situation have escalated. I just hope and pray that that fear goes away. Quickly. Someone told me the other day, they said November 4th is when we predicted cure for COVID it’s a day after the election. I’m going, what, what, what is going on in this country right now? I mean, it’s just, it’s chaos. You don’t know who to listen to. You don’t know who to trust. And, and now we have a, but it needs some sappy music. That’s like, Oh, I do actually arrive Kobe dude. You know what I mean? It’s just like, we need like a sentimental music with like Celine Dion, Ashley, slow pictures of kids running report, kids running slow that I had COVID I had COVID it was really bad. I felt horrible for main, my final, my final words, the family, it was like having a cold.

Speaker 3:
And I, I came to peace with my Lord, took a Shepard DayQuil and I said, Lord, Lord, I’m coming soon. I’m coming home soon too. I got the coat. I, I got the covert. I posted it on a patient book. Then I went out to the black lives matter. Rally. I’ve been apologized for my neighbor for putting that fence foot over on my yard. I wear my mask in my car. I was had a mask and six foot away from him, but I apologize. I wear my mask. I said, neighbor, when a mama wants you to know, I got the covert. I’m not going to be around much. I’m Kieran when he comes, okay, you put your fence there. And I hope and pray. You have a great life. Don’t know don’t touch me. I’m scared. Stay back, stay back, stay back.

Speaker 3:
It turns out 99.9% of the people that I know who’ve been tested or not tested, have covert. I called it. And the other day I had urgent care and I said, Hey, I don’t feel good. And I said, well, you’re not coping. That’s a thing. People want to make sentimental songs about these things, guys. That was pretty good. So I just, I mean, I just took the foot over on my yard. I mean, you’ve got to forgive the guy. This it’s that people, you know, think about it that I’ve learned is that when people have a, uh, a terminal illness, uh, it, it, they get very few of them ended up as atheist. You know what I mean? People that have terminal illnesses. I mean, they get there. They’re like, you know, Hey, you know what? I’ve got to my clickers. I mean, all of our clickers click and you just don’t know how big clicker is.

Speaker 3:
Right. But they actually know. Cause they’ve been told over and over and over. And so then they, they had that tendency to go around and get right. To get things right. Which they shouldn’t be doing anyway. So people writing sad songs about COVID. Oh, I know. I think we just wrote one. It’s taken, people are making music videos about how to like live alone with COVID. Uh, it’s just a new normal, all the commercials and ads all focused around living alone. It’s just ridiculous. It’s seriously. It’s like, and then I know I can’t talk about anymore. Could we take a break from it? I want to look at this video real quick. Look at this video.

Speaker 1:
Look at this. Look at this. Look at this real quick. All the music is my buddy. Ryan college wrote this song, sad, lamenting people. There’s footage of nurses running around. Have you seen the nurses with COVID videos? Have you seen these? Have you seen some of them? Oh, this is here’s the watch. This, this is going to make you laugh. This is nurses because the hospitals are so slow because people are not actually, um, you know, going to hospitals cause people aren’t dying from COVID. So the nurses I have now been making tick-tock videos, and this is a compilation. Now video Nurses during the day are literally making videos, dance videos in the day because they’re not doing anything. We’re literally forcing people out of. Well, nurses are making tech talk videos because it’s not easy. Look at this. These are nurses.

Speaker 5:
Maybe I should say,

Speaker 1:
These are what nurses are doing all day. They’re making dance videos. Cause they’re not look at this.

Speaker 5:
Hi,

Speaker 1:
This is a real thing. When, when do you think play? When do you think this thing’s going to get turned upside down and the actual people that, that people actually will go, okay. I believe them. When do you think this thing’s going to get flip-flopped on its head and nobody’s going to go, Oh, well that was no big deal. I talked to Marla Maples who was president Trump’s ex wife at the Trump international hotel. When I was invited up to DC and speaking with her, I will not say anything with her that I wasn’t allowed to share publicly. But I will say president Trump is meeting with doctors. I’m not talking about a few doctors. I’m talking about hundreds of doctors and she let me know that that’s going to be something that’s, you’re going to see more of his other doctors. And so I can just say now, today there are hundreds of doctors now at the white house sharing.

Speaker 1:
How not lethal COVID is and how the number of cases are being faked. And the number of deaths are being faked. So I think that’s what it’s going to take is a chorus. Because remember, anytime Trump says something that’s wrong, we were having at work works. Anytime. He says something at all, it’s like a man, you should take hydroxy. Chloroquine. It’s been proven to win winning it’s COVID and it’s like, Oh, what does president Trump know about? COVID since Chris Cuomo. So that’s what happens anytime that he endorsed us. But now if we get a bunch of doctors, a bunch like a mob of doctors, Oh, do we have to kneel to them who are out there? Who say, look, I’m a doctor like dr. Scott Jensen from Minnesota. Good doctors like dr. [inaudible]. He’s one of the hundred men that we’ve elected. He’s a Senator and a 38.

Speaker 1:
So we get guys to speak to president Trump and do the press conferences. I think that’s what turns it. I hope so. I’m so over it. I’m so ready to be done. I was done when it was done. I remember when you called me day, one of the bed debit and you, and you, you said Z. I got to know, I got to know Z. What do you think about it real quick? I had just been an all nighter researching covert and I just determined that Neil Ferguson made the models and the whole thing was fake, but I wanted to call you cause people were all my clients were calling me like, should we shut our business down for six months? Literally, should we shut down for six months? And I’m like, can you afford to no, don’t do it. And I said, I think I know where you’re going here, but I just want to ask you,

Speaker 6:
What do you think about COVID

Speaker 1:
And it was so beautiful what you said so crazy. So intense. So awesome. So pure. So righteous. So tough. So I forgot eloquent. You said

Speaker 6:
It’s still freaking [inaudible].

Speaker 1:
It’s exactly what I said said, are you wasting my time? Why would you ask me? And it was like, you don’t yell at me a lot, but it was a good four minutes of just ranting is wrong with you. People. Why would you even ask that? Get off my phone with this stuff. I think your ability to get a little bit, I knew the hell was the size of watermelons. I know I get a lesson, but we were having fun with it. I knew you were joking, but I mean, you’d obviously been asked that question probably six times that day. I know. And so I did go off on your test. It was funny. And I like to moderate Vanessa. I’m like, you should hear this. This is awesome. This was an awesome, I wish I had, I wish I had the call. It was the best thing ever.

Speaker 1:
Oh, I tell you what I, yeah, but from, from, from the get go, it just felt dirty, felt dirty. And it even feels if it doesn’t feel dirty to you by now, you’re listening to the show. You really have been painted like a college sophomore dressing up for Halloween. It felt dirty. Extremely gross, dirty, dirty. Yeah. Pastor Jackson knows what I’m talking about. Dressing up like that for Halloween. One of those mud, like one of those mud races where you just run through and it’s just this how much mud you can get on you, you know, it’s just absolutely dirty. And then, and then now all of a sudden, the stuff’s coming out that you know, that we found out that $700 million of BS. Those money went to the organization that made them came out, that made the models, the 100 million in and he made 8 billion of profit this week, this week, right?

Speaker 1:
Just this a good investment. He’s he’s, there’s a reason why he’s scare everybody to buy and make them stay home and buy from you. I mean, I don’t agree with the ethics, but it’s a, Oh, it’s horrible, solid investment. Now. Final, final thing. Before we wrap up the show, pastor Jackson, is there anything else you want to share with our listeners? We’ve got, you know, millions of folks that listen to the show from coast to coast, many of which are business owners, uh, soccer, moms, soccer dads, I’d say by and large, I don’t know that you could listen to the show for very many seconds and be a far left winger. I’d say most of our audience is my printer attainment. Yeah. The Prentice to hate me. But I’d say most of our audience is either a apathetic.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
They don’t care or they’re going to be libertarian, conservative, Christian. That’s kinda who you’re talking to. Judeo-Christian, that’s kind of our audience here. What do you want to say to our listeners? And I think this is a great season that we’ve discovered a lot about ourselves in the sense of one thing that we have discovered within the midst of the church and even in the midst of pastors is that there’s a lot, a lot of fear. And there’s two types of fear. There’s the spirit of fear, which God doesn’t give us. And then there is the emotion of fear that the Lord has given us for. Like example. If the grizzly bear comes in your vicinity and you’re out in the woods, there’s going to be an emotion of fear, right? To protect you, to protect you, you’re going to either run or you going to fight the grizzly bear.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
That’s what your brain is going to tell you to do. That’s the emotion of fear. It’s a healthy thing. It’s a God thing. But then there’s the spirit of fear, which the Bible tells us that God’s not given us a spirit of fear, but a power love and a sound mind. And so as believers, as followers of the Lord, we have the spirit of faith and faith is greater than fear. But in this season we have seen, and it’s been exposed within the church. Just how much fear there actually is. And fear is the greatest way to control and to manipulate large masses of people. And so I want to just encourage people right now that this is a great time to evict the spirit of fear and allow the spirit of faith to rise up in you and what a great witness and example that’s going to be to the rest of the world.

Pastor Jackson Laymeyer:
That one day we will look back on this moment and say, wow, we overreacted. But as the church, I think we can look back and say, no, we continued to walk in faith. And so that’s why our church, we never closed down. We did drive in church services, even though our mayor tried to stop that we continued to press for it because I was completely convinced. There was no way anybody’s gonna catch some virus sitting in their car and somebody else on another car, there was just no way. But our mayor disagreed. Uh, we went ahead and just press forward on that. You know, we’re back in our building. Now. We haven’t had any cases of COVID. Uh, and so I would just encourage people, uh, especially those of us who claim to be followers of Christ. That means we’re people of faith. Amen. Amen. Well, we’re going to end this show with a boom that right there folks with pastor Jackson, I really do encourage you to check them out and go on a YouTube channel too. We do Sheridan church, Sheraton church on YouTube. Check them out there, folks in this thing with a boom, here we go free.

Speaker 7:
What if you don’t understand? You’re the one you won’t understand why you’re being attacked. Like you’re being attacked. Whenever the enemy knows that the warrant is coming, he always says traps to stop them from succeeding because they’re the ones to have a whole much is given. I’m talking about Abraham because Abraham is the one that Abraham has to move out from his country and away from him.

Speaker 3:
So he wasn’t [inaudible], it’s going to be your great, all the things that I have done. I’m grateful full with clean slate, but like I was different. I ain’t never tried to pull the dope. [inaudible] never make it solid. Make the loyalty is all I ever know doing what you’ve always done. They told me you can never grow conversations with the door that asked him what I ever blown told me. I got dead weight. So friends, I got to let them go. Sweet. Don’t make it. I know that they pick in the [inaudible] patient. I deal with my moment. No stopping. We don’t win. This thing is motive. What you’re going to do, we can get back against the wall. You will stand up like a jet, but you’re going to curl up in the ball. And no one tells us I won’t ride it to where it all got to keep your face up so you can never fall.

Speaker 7:
And Abraham had to move out from his country and away from his tidbit because he was the one. So I didn’t get to stay with his folks because he was the one. They are always on the hit list.

Speaker 3:
I want to talk to some people book. The devil’s been attacking night. Cause every time that happened, there’s a blessing coming up. Fix the problems that you’ve take. Dang. I had to go crazy. Learn your best in front end. Remember when they cut my water off homie man, rejecting how they cut my life. Talk to God. I had to move back in with my mama. Happy feeling like the failure. That’s what life would do. Got to get appointed to grind. I had to make the right move. Raymond noodles. Every night I had some brings the rights to execution the keynote. Tell me what you might do pay for from the man above no other God is flight to you can not Miguel, but I promise I ain’t saying there it’s been the, like I am the one we just begun this ticket clear me and clay clicking. Y’all need to get it out to be colossal taking note. But when we flip it

Speaker 7:
And Abraham had to move out from his country and away from his kindred because he was the one. So he did get to stay with his kid folks because he was the one. They are always on the hit list.

Speaker 3:
I love to talk to some people on the bottom. Now I’m here hoping that success separate 23 years, got the cracking in and she got another kid power man account persevere, cousin, never haven’t taught people. I never stopped riding. When the pizza’s not clear, [inaudible] be paralyzed by the thoughts that we feel.

Speaker 7:
So you’ll stop begging for people to come into agreement with you. So you’ll stop doing polls and census and trying to get everybody to come into consensus with your Bishop so that you won’t nobody to save man with your preach. Cause you already know that you got to heaven said, Hey man,

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 7:
Shut up.