Carlton Pearson | Learn How to Become An Effective Public Speaker + Who Was Clay Clark’s Public Speaking Coach? Carlton Pearson Teaches the Specific Moves, Processes & Strategies to Become A Highly Effective Presenter

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Okay, Thrive Nation, on today’s show what I’m doing is I’m going to be introducing you to my mentor in the niche of public speaking. Years ago I went to a church called Higher Dimensions Church, and when I went to Higher Dimensions Church, they had a pastor by the name of Bishop Carlton Pearson. And he was one of the most successful pastors, one of the most well-known pastors in America. And he was the pastor of the church. I went to now later in life Carlton Pearson

Rejected the the gospel as the literal word word of God and so therefore he and I did not theologically agree May he rest in peace But there was a time there was a moment in our life a period of time period of years where he was my pastor and he was one of the most successful or most well-known names in the world of evangelical Christianity. And he was my mentor.

He was my speaking coach. He was a man that I went to after church one day and I said, Carlton, how can I learn to speak like you? And he said, you know, Clay, the only guy that really has ever asked me that question before was a man by the name of Bishop T.D. Jakes.

I said, you taught Bishop T.D. Jakes how to speak? You taught him? He said, yes, and Oral Roberts taught me. And I said, what? Oral Roberts, the founder of Oral Roberts University, he taught you how to speak publicly?

He said, yes. And I taught T.D. Jakes. And now I’m going to teach you. And I thought, are you getting me? So on today’s broadcast and podcast, if you’ve ever wanted to learn how to become an effective public speaker,

this broadcast, this podcast, this video, it has the absolute power to change your life. But remember folks, knowledge without application is meaningless again Thomas Edison the founder of GE the guy who introduced the recorded audio The guy who introduced recorded audio recorded video Thomas Edison this man said that knowledge without implementation is Hallucination he says that vision without execution is hallucination. He said that knowledge without application is Meaningless who said that Thomas Edison, so I’m telling you if you listen to today’s show and you do not implement what you’re learning, today’s show

has the opportunity to be worth nothing. However, if you are wanting to become an effective public speaker, today’s broadcast has the power to change your life. Now, without any further ado, an in-depth, mind-blowing, mind-altering, life-changing interview with Bishop Carlton Pearson. Some shows don’t need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show.

But this show does. In a world filled with endless opportunities, why would two men who have built 13 multi-million dollar businesses altruistically invest five hours per day to teach you the best practice business systems

and moves that you can use? Because they believe in you and they have a lot of time on their hands. They started from the bottom, now they’re here. It’s the Thrive Time Show starring the former U.S. Small Business Administration’s Entrepreneur of the Year, Clay Clark, and the entrepreneur trapped inside an optometrist’s body, Dr.

Robert Zuckman. Two men, eight kids, co-created by two different women, 13 multimillion dollar by two different women, 13 multi-million dollar businesses. Please bring in some wisdom and the good news. As the father of five, that’s why I’m alive. So if you see my wife and kids, please tell them hi. It’s the CNC up on your radio.

And now, three, two, one, here we go. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, and we’ll show you how to get here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here.

You can learn to speak or you can learn actually to communicate. Words are powerful, they’re inventive, they’re creative, they’re seductive. And you are words. We spell words and words spell us or cast spells, sort of incantations. Now notice this. I, your essence, your immediate, immortal, immutable self.

Not the accidental you, but the permanent you. The person or entity or energy that you came here to express into the universe. You’re powerful. You have so much to offer. Self-confidence. You’ve got to believe in you first.

We all talk. We all use words, but the words must come out of our experience. You can, that would simply mean ability. You are able, enablement. That’s a powerful, the word can is one of the most powerful words on the planet. I can and I am are twins. You are able to do, you got to convince yourself. Here’s where your confidence comes in you and can. And here’s why you can. I like to underline that part of it. Earn. That has to do with earnest upfront money. You know, your pure commitment to self, you can learn

or earn. You actually have earned the right to speak. Convince yourself of that. Somebody’s asked you to speak. You’ve never done it publicly before. You earned the right or you would have been asked. It’s actually a requirement. It’s an assignment. It’s what you came here with the ability to do. So you can earn or learn to communicate.

Look at this word here, peek. You can peek in. You could actually see something that no one else may notice. You’re peeking in. And when you stand with this kind of confidence, your person absorbs while observing the crowd.

You can sense who’s out there. Think about your contribution, your commitment to your ability, and you’ve earned because you are alive. You are here because you know something. is X press out of you what you are. You’re giving yourself, not just a sermon or a lecture

or a talk, you’re giving self, you’re giving soul, you’re giving your energy and your essence, you’re actually loaning it to the crowd and connecting to theirs. That makes it so much easier. Anybody can make an outline and go by your notes

and that’s not insignificant, that has its place. But if they don’t get your yourself and your soul, you’re valuable. You feel that about yourself. It comes across to the people and then you press that out. I love what Angela, Maya, Angela says, people don’t remember so much what you say. They remember how you make them sense or see or satiate feel full or be fulfilled you have that electric power when you’re standing in front of a crowd whether it’s two or two thousand or ten thousand or two hundred thousand i’ve done all those sizes the same energy is there

expand it and you expose it. You express it, you expand it, and you expose it. You actually pose a question that they will answer. Leave them questing and questioning some more so their curiosity stays in place. You came here called and coded to do what your assignment is. Stick with it. You can learn or earn to speak. Now one other thing I want to tell you before we stop is that it’s not just about speaking it’s about communicating. Okay 22 years. So, the key word here is commune or commonness, which means to relate to.

From a religious background, you would say communion. That means common union. You become one with your audience. When I’m talking to my wife, I learn how to become one with her. In fact, the more you commune, the less you have to communicate with words. You become one. You can sense what the audience needs or sense what your spouse or your staff or your employer needs.

You can know and go where they are and take them with you. And that they’ll remember that connection that you have to them because we all love to connect. We all love to feel part of the overall oneness of all that there is. Consciousness is everything. So use the science of what you know, bridge it to what you believe. And that’s basically bridging your humanity to your divinity because you are divine.

You are a genius. You are genetic. You are generational. You actually have a genie inside. If you look up the word genius you’ll see the word, one of the words will be this one. Genie, or jinn, which is if you go into the Arabian way of thinking, it is actually an entity or energy that came

here with you when you came to this planet, when you were born, you were born with energy, you were born by energy, that energy or spirit or genie, you just rub it the right way. And it steps out and says, your wishes by command, and that genie will be with you on the stage. That genie is with you wherever you are on the planet, whatever place or space or pace you’re at that genius, the genius you are is there. Remember, you can speak, communicate, you can become one with all there is, you can connect, you can project, you can interject life and it will always come

back to you. There is no substitute for preparation. What I mean by that is energy and Energy and knowledge are very powerful. And when you study, it shows that you’re curious. You must never lose your curiosity, never lose your interest, never lose your ambition to absorb and observe and to expand and expound. Love yourself enough to reach maximized potential.

That’s self-fulfillment now when you start preparing actually you’re you’re repairing The broken parts of yourself you you you admit that there’s some things that you either don’t know or you have forgotten so you go to the dictionary people I like to play with words a lot and addiction is comes from the idea of Dictation or diction hearing words hearing something your soul has ears. Your soul hears something. And when your soul is inquiring, it’s because it hasn’t heard clearly. And that’s where you start preparing or repairing

your broken or your inadequate part, the part that is not accurate, accurate, or correct, direct, erect, the part of you that’s not, that’s not perpendicular. You want to stand up. So that’s why I like to read and not just read but study, study the words. I keep six or eight books going all the time because I read by inspiration, inspire, who means in spirit. When my spirit is curious about something, I’ll find the book or a book that relates to what I’m curious or what I’m hungry for. It’s like riding down the road and you get an appetite and you decide you want Chinese food or soul food or, of course I like the soul food, Chinese soul food or you want to get some special cuisine that you find at a high-end restaurant, you know, this

special gourmet food. That’s not one of my favorites. I like a good old taco, a good old hamburger. Of course it’s all made from tofu, but I like to eat something that satiates me. So I read and study based on what my interest is and what my curiosity is or if I’m giving a particular subject or topic that I need to study, of course, I prepare for it. You owe it to people to impress them.

So if you’re going to have their attention for 30 minutes or 45 minutes or two hours, then make sure that you connect with them, that you energize with them and you give them inspiration, ultimately transformation. Inspiration, information, and transformation because you’re creating an experience of soul expansion when you talk, when you present. It’s really

easy but it’s only interesting to them if it’s interesting to you. Because vision, you don’t really create vision, vision creates you. When I say vision, I mean visuals. What you see, the image that are going. That helps fashion who you are and how you become. You evolve around the vision that you’re called and coded to in this life. You need to believe that from the reason you got here, you had purpose. Now, since you’re here with a mission, you have permission, you’ve been authorized and deputized to come here, then begin to study and ask and inquire and aim and focus and put forth ideas, ideologies, the logic of ideas, senses.

Your mind is going nuts almost with all of this energy to produce, have vision or visuals or images in your mind and then study. When I was a Bible student, I never just read the Bible. I read every book I could find related to anything spiritual or anything theological, the God logic. And so when I stood on the platform, I was so ready, so turned on, so revved up,

so personally inspired by what I was gonna say. The people knew I was ready. They knew I had prepared, I had gotten, I had repaired myself in advance for what was next for me. What’s next for you? What do you pre-sense? How are you present? So now you wrap, I often do this in my own my own preparation not only just studying and reading and observing, I wrap myself

around and a lot of times in my sessions I will say to people put your arms around yourself and love you, love you, hug you, feel you, embrace you, enhance yourself, love you. That’s part of your reparation and your preparation because you’re repairing yourself from any breaches, any bruises, any scars, anything that made you fragmented

or less than your whole accurate being. Now these are mental and spiritual and mystical ideologies that I’m sharing with you, but you find out that whenever you do anything, consciousness is involved, spirituality and essence is involved. You package that together with science, with knowledge, with presentation, with information, inspiration and ultimately transformation.

Brother Carlton, thank you for being here my friend. Pleasure, absolutely. Hey, we are talking today about public speaking, the high art of speaking. And I am just unbelievably excited to talk to you about this because you’ve given, rumor has it, you’ve given a few talks in your life. Just a few.

If you had to guess, how many talks have you done over the years? Maybe you have to estimate, I guess. Over the last 45 years, at least 100,000. At least. I used to travel three weeks out of a month, so I’d speak sometimes two or three times a day for three or four days a week.

Really? And I did that 30 years straight. Wow. Not to mention, and then come home every weekend and speak three times in Tulsa. So are you more comfortable on stage than not on stage? Yes.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I like to be on what I’m on. When I’m off the stage, I don’t like all the attention that’s given. I like to be incognigro. Well, today, we’re going to be talking about, you know, really the brass tacks of how to get into speaking and what

speaking is like and all the skills. And I wanted to start off by talking a little bit about this. You know, a lot of speakers are, great speakers are respected. People look at great speakers and go, wow, I want to, I wish I could be like that person. We kind of put them on a platform almost. And Forbes did a study that showed that 10% of the population loves to speak, but the

other 90% were kind of afraid of it. Why why are so few few people comfortable speaking? Why is it that most people are a little bit afraid of public speaking in your mind? Well, they’re not afraid of speaking. They’re afraid of public. Hmm. They’re afraid of exposure afraid of being scrutinized and analyzed and criticized and and Especially if they’re not familiar with it Everybody speaks, but everybody doesn’t communicate. There’s a difference in speaking and communicating.

So communicating is the skill, not speaking. Communion and commonness really means communion, that’s sort of a religious term, but that’s common union. You become one with that crowd and people are afraid of that kind of exposure. They’re afraid of getting that unique. The greatest speakers are those who know how quickly to relate to an audience.

So they’re not afraid to speak. They’re actually eager to. They love to hear themselves talk. The common unions. You’re connecting with everyone in the audience. Yeah. So why are great speakers respected so much? I mean, why do we put them up on a pedestal? Why do we really revere them as opposed to, you know, those people who are great at a lot of things? But why do we as a culture respect great speakers so much? Well, the the idea of words, words are powerful.

They’re creative. They’re inventive. Words are enchanting. We spell words, but words spell us. Or cast spells, that’s what they call a spellbounding, spellbinding speaker. He’s actually putting some kind of enchantment, a charm. When that person’s standing on that stage, or even if it’s one-to-one, if that voice, the Greek word for voice is phone, English phonics, phonetics. The phonetics is an energy, there’s an intonation, and that moves because we’re 80% water, moisture. And those words cause vibration.

So when the sound goes out to the audience, it actually gets a chemical response. Really? Yeah, it’s almost, it’s sensual, it’s almost sexual. So it’s very powerful. And so over the years, when a person has a thundering voice, they’ve actually enchanted. It’s like a cantor or an enchantment, or to chant, or to repeat, or to speak. They’re saying something that brings people into a spiritual experience.

Now, I’ve read just so many books about speaking in preparation for interviewing you, because I feel like you know, you’ve probably forgotten more than I’ll ever know about speaking. I mean, you know so much about it. But one of the things that I’ve noticed is that the masters, they deliver mastery. When they get up there to speak, they’re not hacking away. They have a plan, they have a system, they know what they’re doing.

It seems easy, but they’re delivering mastery. And there’s a quote that Winston Churchill said, and he says, a good speech should be like a woman’s skirt, long enough to cover the subject and short enough to create interest. Talk to me about the length of the speech and how that plays into the delivering

of speech. Everything has to do with your affinity and your relatability to the audience. When you know who you’re with, you know when they’re on, you know when they’re off. You know when they’re with you, when they’re for you, when they’re engaged. If you don’t engage them, and I always say it is, you owe it to people to impress them. When you stop impressing them and you’re just pressuring them, cut it off. When I was a kid, they used to say, my dad used to say, son, don’t make them,

when I’m preaching, don’t make them glad twice, glad you got up and glad you sat down. Leave them wanting something. So if a person is more interested, the speaker is more interested in him or herself than the crowd, they lose the crowd. And they’re going to be going on So, the most irresponsible speakers are those who do not connect with the audience. Okay, so let me just give an example. Recently I had a speaking event that I did.

I was speaking to a group of debt collectors, okay? And the debt collectors are there. They are average persons, probably 40 to 50 years old. They’re very successful. They’re at the top of their industry. They had just come back from lunch.

You know that whole post-lunch deal where you’re kind of about ready to fall asleep sort of deal? When you have a group like that, and it’s about 50 people, if you could just visually go there with me, how would you try to relate with a group like that? What kind of maybe tricks would just come off the top of your head? If you were looking into an audience of 40 or 50 guys, they’re debt collectors, it’s

post-launch, how would you do it? Like what’s the system, what’s the strategy? Become, relate exactly to their slumber, their eating, their digestive system, crack a joke, make them stand, turn around, interact, re-energize them.

I remember one time I heard a preacher preaching and the lady had a little kid with him and the preacher had lost the crowd and he was upset and he said to the lady, lady, wake that little boy up. She said, you wake him up, you put him to sleep.

It’s your responsibility to wake them up if they’re asleep and not to put them to sleep. So the beef, it’s called physicality. You’re not just talking, you’re actually demonstrating. You’re performing the talk or performing the message. You’re not just speaking.

So it has to do like you put on a dance. And if I’m dealing with an audience in the afternoon, I always write sometimes right in the middle of the speech. Everybody said, let’s just shift the energy around, move something. And it really stimulates them. And they get fascinated that you have them to do that. Then they start tuning in. But you got to read that crowd. Now, you know, speaking, it is a learnable skill. It’s something that people can learn.

And I know that from, you know, you’ve developed over the years and become better and better and better as a speaker. I’m sure you look back at old tapes of yourself and go, what was I doing? You know, you probably have a, you know, but you get better and better.

But there’s a quote that Carol Dweck, she’s a PhD from Stanford, a professor. And she says this, she says, “‘The passion for stretching yourself and sticking to it, “‘even when it’s not going well, “‘is the hallmark of the growth mindset.'”

This is the mindset that allows people to thrive during some of the most challenging times in their lives. When you first started speaking, did you feel yourself really being stretched? I mean, did you feel like there was mentors that were pushing you or audiences

that were pushing you out of your comfort zone? Tell me what it was like to learn speaking for the first time. Well, I’m from a long line of preachers, Pentecostal, energetic vocalist. Okay.

I mean, they use voice intonations the pitch the whisper the and they were physically involved and engaged in eye Contact and there was this and they created and that word passion actually pathos. It means feeling it We’re from a feeling Experiential type culture, especially in the african-american culture. It’s got you got to feel something and so from from being literally Possessed by the energy.

Possessed, we believe in spiritual, spirit possession. Like for instance, if somebody says, Holy Spirit, they’re affirming that there’s unholy spirits. That you can actually be possessed by an energy or an intelligence or genius. Genius and genie.

When you rub the bottle in the right place, the genie pops up and says, my wish is your command. So you gotta see them as bottles in which a genie lives and your words can cause their genius or their ingenuity or their original means origin, their genius to come alive. It’s never about the speaker, it’s about those to whom you’re speaking. Who are some of your mentors that coached you along and taught you this learnable skill?

Did you just watch your parents and watch everyone around you and kind of pick it up through osmosis? Or did you have people that sat down and said, hey, when you delivered today, you could have done this better or you did this really well

and here’s what you wanna work on. Did you have a formal coaching or what was your process to learn the skill? In school, of course, I took that from a line of preachers. So thundering of message, energizing a crowd from the pulpit was something I said,

we spent more time at church than at home almost. And they were either singing or even the laity would get up and testify. And their testimony had to be fiery. So they had to grab, my mother was good at that. My mother would actually read the scripture while the preacher was preaching and she would thunder from the audience. Her voice would be louder than the guy on the sound system. Come on.

Know all about it. Come on. Father of all, we will understand why. Understand why. And then in high school, I was a thespian. You had to do original public address, you had to do interpretive speaking, impromptu speaking, you had to do debate, and you had to act.

I believe in divine synchronicity. All those things were ordained for my life because I would be a public speaker. I wanted to, but I didn’t know I’d make a living doing it. So learning how to dance with that crowd, you’re always dancing,

and you don’t wanna be dancing alone. So you engage that crowd. Oral Roberts was the most prominent, in my line of religious background, speaker because he was articulate and he was, he enunciated, and he used to tell me, now, you’re good for television, but you need to enunciate. You talk too fast. Slow it down. Look right into that camera. Make sure the people connect to you. He literally, I didn’t

know he was grooming me, but he literally would critique almost every time I spoke, or you were. I have been told by numerous people who’ve worked with me when I was first starting speaking, saying pros go slow and pros know when to speed up, but the pros can go slow, they can, it seems like they have a mastery of their,

they know what they’re doing, they’re not having an outer body experience. Yeah. So for someone watching this who’s maybe a young speaker, and they just did a talk last week, or they have a talk coming up in a week and so they’re on Thrive, they’re trying

to find some speaking training and they’re going oh man I’m nervous, I have another one coming up or I just bombed the last one I did. What would you, what advice would you have for somebody who’s a little discouraged right now but is trying to learn the skill of speaking? Well always be, remain curious and exploratory. When you are nervous, that nervousness

is an opportunity for you to explore. You interrogate, investigate, and excavate your own self. And you do it publicly. You’re standing there having a private conversation publicly. You’re really talking to yourself. You tell them what you’re going to tell them. You tell them, then you tell them what you told them. That’s the three steps to public speaking. Tell them what you’re going to tell them, tell them, and then tell them what you told them. Those three easy steps. But at the same time, you said you can do a speech or talk, or you can give.

It’s one thing to do, that’s to perform the talk. The other is to give a talk. When you give a talk, you’re giving yourself. When you do the talk, you should give and do at the same time, you’re performing the message. One thing to just hand it out there, in other words, you’ll hear me say it a lot of times, dance it. Make it music. The word music comes from the word muse, which means to think. You create music. You create musings. It’s called the science of the musings.

To amuse is the opposite, which is to stop thinking. And there are times when you gotta make them stop thinking and make them laugh, amuse them, and then go back to making them dig real deep. I am just blown away. You have such a rich knowledge on this subject.

Now, one other thing I’ve noticed with public speakers, and another point I wanna get into is, they seem to have a communication I would call maybe like a callus where like if you do a lot of hard work you know you get a callus where it doesn’t physically tear your hands anymore when you when you do the digging. So if you meet a guy who’s been a farmer you know he’s got these tough hands. I remember my uncle Jerry used to have these tough farm hands.

You just shake his hand and it’s man hands. As a speaker you kind of develop certain calluses where if there’s a guy in the front row who’s being a little negative, it doesn’t wear you out. You know when you’re a new speaker, if one person’s sitting there looking negative, it kind of freaks you out. Or if one joke doesn’t go over well, you’ll see a seasoned speaker even make a joke about how the joke wasn’t funny. Or you know, it seems like you develop kind of a callus to it.

What was the big thing for you, or what was the big event, or the big timing, or the big training you did where you began to become less nervous and you started to really develop those speaking calluses where you could get up there and the mic could go out and it didn’t freak you out. Or you could get up there and the joke would go over poorly

and it didn’t freak you out. Or things could happen and it didn’t just derail you. When did you get to that point? Well, you never become unaffected. You just don’t become infected or defected by what happens. The sound could be poor, the crowd could be negative,

the situation could be too hot, the air conditioning went out, one or two are sleeping, they put you on a time when the people were worn out and you have to work a little harder. You don’t react, you just respond.

The difference in reacting, to react is to repeat the performance that just occurred in your mind. If you respond, then you gather the room together and in your creative ingenuity you design What you want to present?

I used to panic with something if something around you look around and as long as the the the speaker stays calm and Collected yeah the audience will too So when you get up there to speak what’s your the goal you have in mind? It’s the statement that Maya Angelou says, people don’t necessarily remember what you say, they remember how you make them feel. You have to be sensual.

When I say sensual, you have to see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, smell it. And if you can create an atmosphere where the person experiences not you, but themselves. When they leave the event, they should not say not only that they enjoyed the sermon, the song, or the service, or the speaker. They want to say, you want to get them to say, I enjoyed myself. You want to create for them an experience of the self. Every time I get a, now, a part of that’s my cultural upbringing and my religious upbringing. When you went to church and you know, I preached for years, you had to make the crowd experience,

not just hear, experience something. So it was, there was always a, a crescendoing point of climactic experience when somebody would cry or laugh or get saved or get healed or come to give money or come to the altar, whatever was there. You gotta manipulate, it’s called handling, manas is the Latin word for hand,

manipulate or maneuver the crowd. You’re literally handling people’s psyche, their thoughts. You’re creating energy in them to respond. So it’s work You’re called to do it or you learn to do it. Okay, you’re called and coded to do it So if I’m a leader of a business right now, I’m going okay. All right. I Understand on a deeper level. I need to connect with my audience. It’s not about me. It’s about them

I’m starting to learn some of these concepts, but I am nervous. I get up to speak and I’m You know doing the whole, you see it at a lot of weddings where people get up to do that toast and they hold the mic out here for some reason and they’re shaking. People in the back are saying, we can’t hear you.

And they’re like, okay. If I’m in that nervous mode, how do I get over the fear of speaking? Once you’ve done it enough, it comes natural. It’s like the first time, it’s like when you have your first child

and it’s a new experience. And when I had my first, we had our first kid, we cleaned everything, we’re overprotective, overcorrective, just almost paranoid. The second one, a little bit more relaxing. The second time through, it’s a little bit more,

because you’ve had experience. The only thing that frightens you is ignorance or the lack of noting, ignoring. When you’re ignoring the realities that are around you, you have to learn how to be able to see that you are in charge.

The only time people break down in nervousness is when they feel out of control. That they feel like the room is controlling them and it’s not the other way around. So once you are self grounded, and that comes from your private time,

if you don’t spend some time before you get on that stage, grounding yourself, whether that’s listening to soft music or meditating or contemplating and just leaning back, realizing that you’re going to transcend. You want a transcended experience. Everything is consciousness.

I want to ask you this. I’m going off road here in this interview, but I want to ask you because when I do speaking events, I literally want to get myself into an emotional state where I have everything together for at least five or six hours before the talk. So as an example, I have an event coming up here soon and I will fly into the town the day before, and if the flight’s delayed, I wanna be okay.

I wanna still get there. I don’t wanna fly in the day of the speech. I cannot, I will never fly in the day of the speech. And then I wanna get up that morning, but I don’t wanna talk to anybody, and I wanna read that outline, read the outline again,

listen to certain music, get myself in a zone, so when I’m up there, I am in the right emotional state, I’m mentally present, I’m physically present, that whole thing. Do you have kind of a pre-game mojo that you’re kind of a pre-game thing you do to get yourself in the right emotional state

or something you’d recommend for the thrivers to do before they talk so that they are mentally and physically prepared for the event? Always, but it’s habitual. When you have a canned sermon or a canned talk that you repeatedly do

hundreds of places, hundreds of stages, you can become bored with it, because familiarity does breed contempt. You must work on living above contemptuous consciousness, that the audience, the expert, you’re not just talking to get an honorarium.

You’re talking to communicate. It’s like talking to your wife or partner or spouse, or your staff. You want to communicate with them in a small staff meeting. You’ve got to care about what you’re saying and care about those to whom you’re saying it. The people can tell whether or not you’re really into them or whether you’re into yourself.

I’ve heard some great speakers that had something to say and I walked away with people and said, he was a jerk. He was so self-absorbed. He was so into himself. He was really cocky. That’s and he had something powerful to say, but he let his his his disconcern or unconcern or lack of concern for the people come through. They knew it. It’s that’s harmful. It’s going to probably take me about six days to mentally unpack everything I’ve just learned. You know what you know so much about language and so much about it. Just your depth of knowledge in this subject is unbelievable.

And so for Thrivers, if you’re watching this episode and you want to learn everything you could possibly learn about public speaking, you’re going to find it on Thrive 15 and on other episodes with Brother Carlton. But I just want to tell you, this is an absolute honor. It is like I would have been mentally just prepared. I’m so excited to interview you here for the last 30, 45 days as I knew it was getting closer.

So thank you for allowing me to have the experience of being here with you today. I greatly appreciate it. El gusto es mio. That means the pleasure is mine in Espanol, in Spanish. For all you thriving Hispanics.

All right, thank you so much, my friend. Pleasure, absolutely. All right, Thrivers, welcome to a powerful train that’s going to blow your mind. You might want to get some duct tape out and get ready to duct tape your head back together after it explodes after you learn

today’s topic which is 10 super moves of a power presenter. So if you’re somebody who’s ever wanted to do a presentation or you have a presentation and you’re kind of going I want to spice it up a little bit or a lot, this is going to be a training that you absolutely are going to want to pay you’re gonna wanna pay attention to. Brother Carlton, I appreciate you being here, my friend. I am super excited.

I’m gonna disappear so I don’t take the quality of the program down. I’m just gonna leave and let you do your thing. That’s not possible. All right. 10 super moves of a powerful or power presenter.

What I’m gonna actually talk about is you displaying or manifesting your potential. The word potential means power. Omnipotent means all power. So you will first are established as a powerful entity, a powerful being. A presenter has to be present. So you’re actually presenting or not just representing, but re-presenting yourself and your soul to the person. You’re demanding time out of their day and that time whether it’s 30 minutes 20 minutes or an

hour or an hour and a half you’re taking something from them but you’re replacing it with something that you would consider more more powerful and more beneficial for them. They came there to improve to expand and to learn better ways to express and that’s what you’re doing. So 10 super moves of a powerful I would not just say power but a presentation that empowers, a presentation that enables,

a presentation that reminds the person or people of their essential intrinsic goodness, or their Godness, or their grandness. Everybody wants to feel good about themselves. You leave the people with a feeling of worth and wealth. They became richer because they listen to you because they heard you and because they experienced you now

Super really means where it’s where we get our word superior. These are elevated ways not not moderation. It’s a It’s it’s boring and it’s irresponsible to to not be extraordinary Extraordinary ordinary people doing ordinary things extraordinarily. Well, that’s what you’re doing. So when you stand in front of the crowd, however the size, individuals, I want you to think also, always,

about not just about large crowds. The word audience comes to the word audio. It’s really listening, what they’re listening, what they’re hearing, and what they believe. Faith comes by hearing. So it’s about believing in themselves

and you believing in yourself from the get-go. So you’re making movements, you’re doing momentum, you are presenting and performing. You don’t just actually present, you literally perform in front of them. You’re an actor. It’s called spect… The word spectacle or spectator actually is the Greek word theotron, which means theater.

You’re actually doing theater, when you become a spectacle, they’re all sitting there spectating you, you become the spectacle, you’re actually the performer. So feel good about it, whether it’s singing, talking, sharing, seeing, you’re acting, and you’re not faking it, you’re actually forming it. Preform, perform, and reforming it. Yourself, you reform yourself, you reform the crowd.

It’s fun, it’s a very artistic skill. It’s like a dance. It’s athletic and it’s sportsmanship. Sports just means to have fun. Athletic means to win a prize. You’re going to do both. The first of our 10 steps is the self-fulfilling prophecy, or I like to say the self-fulfilling promise. You are promising the audience something. It’s like advertisement. Here you hear you come listen, watch. It’s a circus in one sense, or it’s entertainment, but you’re

promising the people a result. You’re, you’re making them aware that their experience with you, however long is going to be worth their time, worth their while it’s valuable to them. Uh, sometimes people do that by, by putting up a sale sign, you know, or going out of business side just to get the crowd in there so they’ll spend extra money. So what you want to do is engage the crowd before you engage the crowd by making them interested.

So you say, today you’re going to experience something that is going to change your life forever. You will never forget what we’re going to talk about. These words, get your pen and pencil ready because we’re ready. Now that’s really, it’s crowd manipulation. You’re stimulating them. I mean, it’s an actual life experience when you’re standing on the platform and you’re

communicating a message and you’re becoming one with the crowd. Enjoy it. It’s it’s it’s you are you should be as fulfilled, self-fulfilling. You should be as fulfilled as they are fulfilled. And if you’re fulfilled, if you’re satiated, they will be too. The big introduction. Actually I’m saying I’m calling this introducing yourself. After you have been introduced by the person who presents

you and they read your dossier, those are just words. The few seconds that you’re there in front of them before you actually start your lecture or your presentation, your information, you’re presenting yourself, you’re reintroducing, giving them entrance to who you are. You state again differently than was stated before.

Sometimes that’s just telling your first experience, giving an example of what you’re going to talk about and make it intriguing, make it interesting, almost make it mysterious. Think of a story that is about you, something that you have lived on

and walked on and worked on or worked through, you grab them, it’s like, once upon a time, once upon a time, once upon, I wanna tell you something, those kinds of, I remember as a kid, when I was a child, reading those once upon a time, that first statement of, it immediately engaged me.

But it also said, I’m gonna tell you something that you don’t already know. You’re putting a promise out there. You actually engage the people. They start mentally and psychologically anticipating good, which is anticipating themselves. And it will be fulfilled because their taste buds are ready. It’s like going to a soul food restaurant or Asian restaurant. If it says, the one thing you want to do is you don’t go to the International House of Pancakes and order a taco. It just doesn’t fit if it says international pancake

You’re thinking of pancakes if it says Asian foods or Chinese restaurant. That’s what you expect And so you wet their appetite and you tell them what they’re going to get I always say in public speaking tell them what you what you’re going to say say it and then tell them what you said Very easy. It’s very self-fulfilling both for you and for the audience. Again, always have fun. Three, the whisper effect. I kind of alluded to that a minute ago with the once upon a time. You’re actually like an orchestra, like a conductor of an orchestra and you have a symphonic sound out there.

You’re going to play the audience like they’re an orchestra. You’re going to bring sounds and intonations out of them in consciousness and you dance around physically and verbally what you say, how you say it. And the intonations, the word voice in its Greek origin, and I refer to that because I studied the Greek New Testament.

So voice is the Greek word phone, P-H-O-N-E, where we get the word phonics or phonetics. The whisper raises a huge question mark and people lean forward because they can’t hear as well. So when you bring your voice down, I’m going to tell you something. Sometimes we talk to children that way. Everybody leans in once upon a time. I want to tell you a story. Listen to this. Catch this. Wait a minute. Listen. You’re actually accenting. You’re punctuating the lecture with an exclamation point or a comma or a semicolon or or a period and

don’t put a period where a comma is and don’t put an exclamation point where it doesn’t belong and excite people. So it’s actually manipulating the word madness is the Latin word for hand you manipulate and maneuver a crowd. It’s powerful. It’s part of crowd control. Then you add the drama or the dramatics that’s that’s the the when you’re making a forceful, accentuated point, say I’m doing my hand like this, that jars them.

Or if you beat on the, a lot of people don’t like that, but if you hit your hand on the podium, it wakes up and there’s always going to be one or two out there sleeping. So you’re re-engaging, it’s like stop and start, stop and start, stop and start. Sometimes I actually, in addition to whisper, I’ll actually say, right in the middle of it, everybody stand up, turn around, touch somebody. Or repeat this word with me.

If I say listen, everybody say listen. Here, grab your ear. These are all physical antics, and they engage the crowd, and they love it. Number four, the crescendo, the climax. In my tradition, and I refer often to my own experience in worship or teaching or preaching

because I have a huge church background, though I speak to all kinds of crowds all over the country, it was a climactic experience. When we went to church or even to a play or watched a movie, there was always this almost orgasmic climax at the end that you close the deal. You start low and you start building. The whisper is a little bit part of it,

but you’ve got them leaning forward to this, I always use what I call the three O’s. Orgasmic, organic, and organizational. Now here’s how I use those terms in reference to, I was a bishop, I oversaw

like 600 churches, and I would say, if you didn’t have this internal burst of energy, it’s like you know you have to do this thing, you’re passionate about it, you can’t get away from it, it stays with you when you’re sleeping, you’re awake, when you’re washing the car, when you’re driving, you’re always turned on, really. What is it? Howard Thurman said, don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. And then when you’ve had that, that orgasmic experience, energetically

and spiritually, it’s followed by a natural growth. It’s called organic growth. It just nobody has to tell the fetus to grow fingernails or fingers or toes or ears. It just starts happening. Then you begin to put the organizational parts in place. The more practical aspect of it. There’s a mystical and spiritual and physical and functional part in every presentation, but you always end with this loud burst of the

sulfur soul that closes the deal. It’s like back in the days when I would have the final appeal at the end, is there another who would raise your hand and receive Christ or something like that, like Billy Graham used to do in the Great Crusade. He was building up to that all the time. It’s just like preaching and presenting. Except in my culture you don’t just preach a sermon, you perform it. And people were expecting that ultimate climax.

You know where you’re going and they sense, they don’t always know it, but they sense you’re going somewhere. You have to know where you’re going and get there. ♪ Break it down, break it down, break it down, break it down ♪ Number five is the humor.

Solomon, one of the greatest writers and teachers, and he was a botanist and a scientist and an architect. He said, laughter, I’m quoting the King James Version, doeth good like a medicine. There’s something, or really a merry heart. When you laugh, it releases endorphins, which are chemicals in the body that create or cause

healing. Most of the people who are listening are listening because they feel like they’re lacking. They want to learn something. They feel partially fragmented. When you, I remember the first time I preached at a church in the southern part of the United States and they didn’t know I was black. This was back in the 70s. Sometimes when I was invited to speak at these churches,

they wouldn’t even put my picture in the paper because they didn’t want the folks to know I was a man of color. And a lot of them invited me to eat. We want the evangelists to eat at our house or to stay at our house. I was a young guy in my 20s. I had an integrated team. Sometimes when I, they didn’t know I was black until I walked in the church on Sunday morning in live in color and they didn’t know what to do. Some of them were stunned and shocked and I knew I could tell I could feel that wall building up so the first thing I do is start out

with a joke. I would make usually something about myself that they could relate to and they would forget color, they forget culture, they forget race, they almost forget ethnicity. Laughter made us all one and every time you feel like you’re losing or your audience is trailing off or fragmenting us, throw in some humor. It’s medicinal. It heals hatred. It heals abusiveness and discrimination. And it puts us all

in the same level. It’s very, very powerful, very, very effective. I’ve used it for many, many years, it comes pretty natural with me. Number six, the self-deprecation, relating to the common humanness of people. They want to know that you’re not speaking down to them. You’re not giving them a hand out.

You’re giving them a hand up. You’ve been there that you can relate to who they are, where they are, what they’re experiencing, and that you’re not lording it over them. Because when you do that, you put a put a wall between you and the audience. Your idea is to communicate or to make a common connection. Communication, you may have heard me refer to that earlier.

The commonness, the connection, or the communion. You actually commune with the people. They feel one with you. They actually bond to you. Now, I had to learn that in ministry because you wanted the people to come back.

There was a bond that was established on the stage. And when they know, people don’t care, people don’t care so much what you know until they know that you care. When they know you care, it’s because you relate. And so when you tell a story of brokenness or anger or failure or lack, they say, OK, this guy knows where I am.

Of sitting in an audience feeling that all hope was gone. And everybody has those experiences. Tell yours. Disrobe. Open. Become vulnerable. Expose yourself. expose yourself and do it in a way that’s not telling somebody else’s story but that’s telling your story.

Number seven, the story. Everybody loves storytelling. It’s his story, her story. History is really a reference to Christ in history but it’s really not just his story, but it’s her story and then ultimately your story Those are called examples Illustrations the most illustrious speaker that you’ll ever hear is the one that adds Illustrations to the talk they leave the text and put it in context They put it in a way that the people who are listening can relate humorous stories frightening stories, mysterious stories.

Everybody likes a novel. Everybody likes to be novel or be a novelty. So when you tell the story, you interject them all the way through. In your time of preparation, remember two or three stories. Sometimes the story will be as spontaneous and as current as your trip to the church or to the venue or the hotel or something that happened just before you left the home, a confrontation you might have had with your wife or your

children or your husband, your children, or something that happened along the way. It immediately puts the people on a level that is relative to them as well as to you. There’s no substitute for it. Sometimes people won’t even remember your topic, but they will remember your story. Number eight of these 10 superior ways to communicate with people and to make your presentation. The audience participation, you want to engage or be to be engaged is to be, is to make a commitment.

You’ll be trolled for that, for that 45 minutes or hour that you’re on that stage, they need to know you’re committed to them, but you engage them. It’s in the church tradition, tradition, we call it call and response. I’ll make a statement and the crowd will go, yes, or amen. And in my culture, we’d go, Hey, that don’t make any sense to you. If you never heard it before. Yeah. Yeah. And then the crowd would go, yeah, yeah. That’s kind of like a black experience, but it’s also, you see it in rock concerts and you sit in other, uh, public presentations. It’s the applause. I might say turn to the person next to you and repeat this word.

Give somebody a high five. Get up and make a complete, what is 160 or turn and tell yourself you’re going to turn your life around. You’re never going to go this way before or nudge the person or touch the person or repeat this after me. You engage the audience. People who are stiff and non-participatory will suddenly wake up. Sometimes they don’t want to say something to their neighbor. You say, just raise your hand or clap your hand or touch, engage the audience because they are part, partial and portions of the presentation.

Again, it’s all about communing or becoming common with the crowd enough to engage their interests and make them value you different and better. Any it doesn’t have to be at a certain time towards the end. Anytime you feel like the presentation is in a lull, engage them. Everybody turn up quickly. Sometimes I go, just shift the energy around.

Move something. You can actually affect your reality or environment by doing something. At that moment, you’re in a magical flow and they know and they’re going to do whatever you tell them to do. And they actually feel it because you tell them they’re going to feel it. When you do this, you’re going to feel better.

You’re actually, we talked about self-fulfilling prophecies. The moment you do this, you’re going to feel the change. It’s like a placebo. You know, they, they, they, not 81% of the people who take placebos say that they feel better as a result of it. Doctors will tell you that. It isn’t the real drug because it’s psychosomatic.

Psyche is the mind. Soma is the body. You’re actually becoming a psychosomatic presenter. You’re helping the people change how they view things and how they think. Number nine, the Q&A.

Again, this is part of engaging the crowd. There’ll always be questions, and they think it’s really, I’ve found, and I feel it myself, when the person who’s making the presentation stops, says, okay, why don’t I take the next 10 minutes, or the next 20 minutes, and just answer some questions?

Or, you can say, before you get to the Q&A, at the end, start making notes, write down a couple things you want to talk about. It’s a wonderful, it should be a spiritual, central, social experience, every time. Every time you engage the people. They should feel like they’re gaining something. So when they get to ask their questions, that means you care about what they think or you care about them feeling fragmented or incomplete.

You want to not compete, but complete the session. Every time you’re making them and the word complete and compliment come from the same ideology. You’re complimenting the people saying questions count, you count, they’ll never forget that. Very powerful. And the last one is the close or the climax. I alluded to that earlier.

You gotta close the deal. You gotta give them marching orders. You don’t just put it out there, but at the end, you engage them to do something beyond the four walls of the venue where you’re speaking. They leave there loaded, not only with information

and inspiration, but again, transformation. They go out and make the difference. And you, you get to the place where you almost obligate them. You make them promise. They make a commitment or a covenant. They actually sign a, a contract to fulfill or feel full.

What you just presented to them for some reason, that also makes people feel responsible. They respond, response able. They respond to their ability, to their empowerments, to their intrinsic goodness and gladness, or I would say, Godness. We’re all bridging every day our humanity to our divinity, our ideas, our inspiration, our encouragement, inspire means in spirit. We are not just human beings looking for spiritual experiences.

We are spirit having an earthly encounter. When you remind the people of the bridge that either you can be or build for them, or they can be in built for themselves to bridge their, their humanity or human, and their humanness to their divinity, that sparkle, that orgasmic thing I referred to earlier, that really turns you on, that divine inspiration that you know you have to do something that you’re called and coded to do it. Even though

you have the human frailty, you make you, you can make a seamless sequence or segue to from one part to the next part. And it’s the constant evolving, revolving momentum and moments of their life and of yours. Clay Clark is here somewhere. Where’s my buddy Clay? Hey, Clay Clark! Clay’s the greatest.

I met his goats today, I met his dogs, I met his chickens, I saw his compound. He’s like the greatest guy. I ran from his goats, his chickens, his dogs. So this guy’s like the greatest marketer you’ve ever seen, right?

His entire life, Clay Clark, his entire life is marketing. Okay Aaron Antis March 6th and 7th. March 6th and 7th guess who’s coming to Tulsa Russela. Santa Claus? No that’s March. March 6th and 7th. We’re gonna be joined by Robert Kiyosaki. Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. Possibly the best-selling or one of the best-selling business authors of all time and he’s going to be joined with Eric Trump. We’ll be joined by Eric Trump. We’ve got Eric Trump and Robert Kiyosaki in the same place.

In the same place. Aaron, why should everybody show up to hear Robert Kiyosaki? Well you got billions of dollars of business experience between those two. Not to mention many many many millions of books have been sold. Many many millionaires have been made from the books that have been sold by Robert Kiyosaki. I happen to be one of them. I learned from the man. He was the inspiration.

That book was the inspiration for me to get the entrepreneurial spirit, as many other people. Now, since you won’t brag on yourself, I will. You’ve sold billions of dollars of houses, am I correct? That is true. And the book that kick-started it all for you… Rich Dad Porn Ed, Robert Kiyosaki, the guy that kickstarted your career, he’s going to be here.

He’s going to be here. I’m pumped. And now Eric Trump, people don’t know this, but the Trump Organization has thousands of employees. There’s not 50 employees. The Trump Organization, again, most people don’t know this, but the Trump Organization

has thousands of employees. And while Donald J. Trump was the 45th president of these United States and soon to be the 47th president of these United States, he needed someone to run the companies for him. And so the man that runs the Trump organization for Donald J. Trump as he was the 45th president of the United States and now the 47th president of the United States is Eric Trump. Eric Trump is here to talk about time management, promoting from

within, marketing, branding, quality control, sales systems, workflow design, workflow mapping, how to build. I mean, everything you see, the Trump hotels, the Trump golf courses, all their products. The man who manages billions of dollars of real estate and thousands of employees is here to teach us how to do it. You are talking about one of the greatest brands on the planet from a business standpoint.

I mean, who else has been able to create a brand like the Trump brand. I mean look at it and this is the man behind the business for the last pretty much since 2015. He’s been the man behind it so you’re talking we’re into nine going into ten years of him running it and we get to tap into that knowledge that’s gonna be amazing. Now think about this for a second. You know would you buy a ticket just to see a Robert Kiyosaki, Eric Trump, of course you would.

But we’re also going to be joined by Sean Baker. This is the best-selling author, the guy who invented the carnivore diet. Dr. Sean Baker, he’s been on Joe Rogan multiple times. He’s going to be joining us. You’ve got Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author, rich dad, poor dad, Eric Trump, Sean Baker.

The lineup continues to grow, and this is how we do our tickets here at the Thrive Time Show. If you want to get a VIP ticket, you can absolutely do it. It’s $500 for a VIP ticket. We’ve always done it that way. Now, if you want to take a general admission ticket,

it’s $250 or whatever price you want to pay. And the reason why I do that and the reason why we do that is because we want to make our events affordable for everybody. I grew up without money. I totally understand what it’s like to be the tight spot. So if you want to attend, it’s $250 or whatever price

you want to pay. That’s how I do it. And it’s $500 for a VIP ticket. Now, we only have limited seating here. But the most people we’ve ever had in this building was for the Jim Brewer presentation. Jim Brewer came here, the legendary

comedian Jim Brewer came to Tulsa and we had 419 people that were here. 419 people. And I thought to myself, there’s no more room. I felt kind of bad that a couple people had VIP seats in the men’s restroom. No, I’m just kidding. So I thought, you know what, we should probably add on. So we’re adding on what we call the upper deck or the top shelf. So the seats are very close to the presenters, but we’re actually building right now, we’re adding on to the facility to make room to accommodate

another 30 attendees or more. So again, if you want to get tickets for this event, all you have to do is go to Thrivetimeshow.com, go to Thrivetimeshow.com. When you go to Thrivetimeshow.com, you’ll go there, you’ll request a ticket, boom. Or if you want to text me, if you want a little bit faster service, you say, I want you to call me right now. Just text my number.

It’s my cell phone number, my personal cell phone number. We’ll keep that private between you, between you, me, everybody. We’ll keep that private. And anybody, don’t share that with anybody except for everybody. That’s my private cell phone number. It’s 918-851-0102.

918-851-0102. I know we have a lot of Spanish-speaking people that attend these conferences. And so to be bilingually sensitive, my cell phone number is 918-851-0102. That is not actually bilingual. That’s just saying Juan for a Juan. It’s not the same thing. I think you’re attacking me. Now, let’s talk about this. Now, what kind of stuff will you learn at the Thrive Time Show workshop? So, Aaron, you’ve been to many of these over the past seven, eight years.

So let’s talk about it. I’ll tee up the thing and then you tell me what you’re going to learn here, okay? Okay. You’re going to learn marketing, marketing and branding. What are we going to learn about marketing and branding? Oh yeah, we’re going to dive into, you know, so many people say, oh, you know, I got to

get my brand known out there, like the Trump brand. Right. You want to get that brand out there. It’s like, how do I actually make people know what my business is and make it a household name. You’re going to learn some intricacies of how you can do that.

You’re going to learn sales. So many people struggle to sell something. This just in, your business will go to hell if you can’t sell. So we’re going to teach you sales. We’re going to teach you search engine optimization, how to come up top in the search engine results.

We’re going to teach you how to manage people. Aaron, you have managed, no exaggeration, hundreds of people throughout your career and thousands of contractors and most people struggle with managing people. Why does everybody have to learn how to manage people? Well because first of all people are either have great people or you have

people who suck and so it could be a challenge. You know learning how to work with a large group of people and get everybody pulling in the same direction can be a challenge. But if you have the right systems, you have the right processes, and you’re really good at selecting great ones,

then we have a process we teach about how to find great people. When you start with the people who have a great attitude, they’re teachable, they’re driven, all of those things, then you can get those people all pulling in the same direction. So we’re going to teach you branding, marketing, sales,

search engine optimization. We’re going to teach you accounting. We’re going to teach you personal finance, how to manage your finance, we’re going to teach you time management, how do you manage your time, how do you get more done during a typical day, how do you build an organization if you’re not organized, how do you do organization, how do you build an org chart, everything that you need to know

to start and grow a business will be taught during this two day interactive business workshop. Now let me tell you how the format is set up here. This is a two-day interactive 15, think about this folks, it’s two days. Each day starts at 7am and it goes until 5pm. So from 7am to 5pm, two days, it’s a two-day interactive workshop. The way we do it is we do a 30-minute teaching session and then we break for 15 minutes for

a question and answer session. So Aaron, what kind of great stuff happens during that 15-minute question and answer session after every teaching session? I actually think it’s the best part about the workshops because here’s what happens. I’ve been to lots of these things over the years.

I’ve paid many thousands of dollars to go to them. And you go in there and they talk in vague generalities and they’re constantly upselling you for something, trying to get you to buy this thing or that thing or this program or this membership. And you don’t, you leave not getting

your very specific questions answered about your business, or your employees, or what you’re doing on your marketing. And what’s awesome about this is we literally answer every single question that any person asks. And it’s very specific to what your business is. And what we do is we allow you, as the attendee,

to write your questions on the whiteboard. And then we literally, as you mentioned, we answer every single question on the whiteboard. And then we take a 15-minute break to stretch. And to make it entertaining when you’re stretching, this is a true story.

When you get up and stretch, you’ll be greeted by mariachis, there’s going to probably be alpaca here, llamas, helicopter rides, a coffee bar, a snow cone. I mean, you had a crocodile one time. That was pretty interesting. You know, I should write that down.

Sorry for that one guy that we lost. The crocodile, we duct taped its face. So that’s right, we duct taped. This is a baby crocodile. And we duct taped. Yeah, duct taped around the mouth so it didn’t bite anybody.

But it was really cool passing that thing around and passing it. I should do that. I should do that. We have a small petting zoo that will be assembled. It’s going to be great. And then you’re in the company of hundreds of entrepreneurs.

So there’s not a lot of people in America today. In fact, there’s less than 10 million people today, according to U.S. Debt Clock, that identify as being self-employed. So if you have a country with 350 million people, that means you have less than 3% of our population that’s even self-employed. So you only have three out of every hundred people in America that are

self-employed to begin with, and when Inc. Magazine reports that 96% of businesses fail by default, by default you have a one out of a thousand chance of succeeding in the game of business. But yet the average client that you and I work with, we can typically double this. I’m just no hyperbole, no exaggeration. I have thousands of testimonials to back this up.

We have thousands of testimonials to back it up. But when you work with a home builder, when I work with a business owner, we can typically double the size of the company within 24 months. Yeah.

Double? And you say double? Yeah, there’s businesses that we have tripled. There’s businesses we’ve grown 8x. There’s so many examples. You can see it thrive timeshow.com.

But again, this is the most interactive best business workshop on the planet. This is objectively the highest rated and most reviewed business workshop on the planet. And then you add to that Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad.

You add to that Eric Trump, the man that runs the Trump Organization. You add to that Sean Baker. Now you might say, Clay, is there more? I need more! Tom Wheelwright is the wealth strategist for Robert Kiyosaki.

People say, Robert Kiyosaki, who’s his financial wealth advisor? Who’s the guy who manages? Who’s his wealth strategist? His wealth strategist, Tom Wheelwright, will be here. And you say, Clay, I’m not going to get a ticket unless you give me more! Okay, fine. We’re going to serve you the same meal both days. True story.

We cater in the food. And because I keep it simple, I literally bring in the same food both days for lunch. It’s Ted Esconzito’s, an incredible Mexican restaurant. That’s going to happen. And Jill Donovan, our good friend, who is the founder of Rustic Cuff. She started that company in her home, and now she sells millions of dollars of apparel

and products. That’s rusticcuff.com. And someone says, I want more. This is not enough. Give me more. OK.

I’m not going to mention their names right now because I’m working on it behind the scenes here. But we’ve got one guy who’s given me a verbal to be here. And this is a guy who’s one of the wealthiest people in Oklahoma. And nobody really knows who he is because he’s built systems

that are very utilitarian, that offer a lot of value. He’s made a lot of money in the, it’s the, it’s where you rent, it’s short term, it’s where you’re renting storage spaces. He’s a storage space guy. He owns the, what do you call that? The rental, the, storage space, storage units.

This guy owns storage units. He owns railroad cars. He owns a lot of assets that make money on a daily basis, but they’re not like customer facing. Most people don’t know who owns the mini storage facility, or most people don’t know who owns the warehouse that’s passively making

money. Most people don’t know who owns the railroad cars. But this guy, he’s giving me a verbal that he will be here. And we just continue to add more and more success stories. So if you’re out there today, you want to change your life, you want to give yourself an incredible gift, you want a life-changing experience, you want to learn how to start and grow a company, go to Thrivetimeshow.com. Go there right now. Thrivetimeshow.com.

Request a ticket for the two-day interactive event. Again, the day here is March 6th and 7th. March 6th and 7th. We just got confirmation. Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. He’ll be here.

Eric Trump, the man who leads the Trump Organization. It’s going to be a blasty blast. There’s no upsells. Aaron, I could not be more excited about this event. I think it is incredible. And there’s somebody out there right now, you’re watching, and you’re like, but I already signed up for this incredible

other program called Smoke Your Way to Thin. I think that’s going to change your life. I promise you this will be 10 times better than that. It’s like I picked the wrong week for smoking. Don’t do the Smoke Your Way to Thin conference. That is, I’ve tried it, don’t do it.

Chain smoking is not a viable, I mean it is life changing. It is life changing. If you become a chain smoker, it is life changing. It’s not the best weight loss program though. Right. Not really.

If you’re looking to have life changing results in a way that won’t cause you to have a stoma, get your tickets at Thrivetimeshow.com. Again that’s Aaron Antis, I’m Clay Clark, reminding you and inviting you to come out to the two day interactive Thrivetimeshow workshop right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I promise you it will be a life changing experience. We can’t wait to see you

right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma.