Carnivore Diet | Best-Selling Author Dr. Shawn Baker | How Did Thomas Crosson Lose 81 Pounds? How Did Rick Lowe Lose 92 Pounds (In 6 Months)? Will Your Brain Explode & Will Cholesterol Kill You If You Eat Only Meat?

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What’s up, Sean? Good to see you. Good to be back, Joe. Thanks for taking the time. You’re still alive. You’ve been eating nothing but meat, and you’re still alive. I am still alive. Doubters be gone. When I just eat mostly meat, I feel so much better.

I mean, maybe it’s anecdotal. Maybe it’s just me and you. And many other people that do it, but there’s something to it. But you’re an extreme example, because you have been doing it now for how many years? So I’m starting my eighth year. So just just a year. Yes.

When I came to see you last time, it was almost six years ago. So I had just finished seven years now. So yeah, it’s been a while. And people should know that you’re you’re actually a doctor. You’re an orthopedic surgeon. And you didn’t didn’t at one point in time, they took your license away because you were

providing medical information, but you got it back. Yeah, it was kind of an interesting thing. So when I was practicing medicine, busy orthopedic surgeon, plugging away, doing a thing, and then I started realizing, hey, I can have people avoid surgery

by changing their diet, and their pain went away. I was like, you don’t need surgery. Well, that is not what hospitals want you to do. You could be anywhere doing a lot of different things, but you chose to be here. Some shows don’t need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show.

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We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, and we’ll show you how to get here. Okay, Thrive Nation, here’s the story, true story. One of my clients, Nace Roberts and Jordan Roberts, they are brothers, they have beards,

Nace and Jordan Roberts, they came into my office and I’m going, you look like half of you is missing. And they said, Clay, we’re on this all meat diet thing. And I’m going, is that healthy? Is that good? Are you going to make it?

Are you going to make it? I don’t know if this is a good deal, bad deal, I don’t know enough about it, but what are your thoughts? And they said, no, no, this is a thing. This is a good thing. There’s a guy who wrote a book about it.

Let me pull this up real quick. And I thought, I don’t know if this is a thing. And so they said, it is a thing. And by the way, their company is called Grid Down Chow Down. They have a meat bias, okay? They sell meat that doesn’t have mRNA technology in it.

So when you go to Target and they sell synthetic meat or the genetically modified meat, they don’t sell that kind of stuff. So they have a bias towards meat. And I thought to myself, they’re good guys, they’ve been a client of mine for like seven years,

they like meat, I like meat, I’ll look into it. So then I watched Dr. Sean Baker’s interview with Joe Rogan, blew my mind. And then we were at the last conference and this guy by the name of Rick, Rick, there he is on camera, Rick came up to me

and he said he lost 87 pounds in six months since hearing the presentation of Dr. Sean Baker and implementing it. Again, Dr. Sean Baker spoke at one of our in-person business workshops. And slick Rick here, he’s down 87 pounds in six months. 92 pounds in my face. 92 pounds and then

here’s Thomas Crossan, the founder of a great company in Dallas, Texas, long-time client called Full Package Media. Thomas, how much weight have you lost, sir? I think you’re muted somehow. Did I mute you or are you muted somehow? Let me see. There might be a mute there. That’s not a passive-aggressive editing thing from me. He’s coming right back. So you lost how much Rick?

I’m down 92 today and 171 days. And so Sean Baker, I watch you online. You are really, really aggressively stating the facts and warning people about the dangers of Ozempic and other weight loss medications. And I thought, sir, we have to have an opportunity for you to hear from actual people that are implementing your carnivore diet.

Does it shock you, sir, to hear the kind of results that have been seen by Rick here? No, not at all. This is kind of routine for me. I see people losing 10, 20, 30, 50, 100, 200, 300. We had a lady that lost 500 pounds in two years on this diet. So, yeah, I mean, weight loss is a pretty typical thing we see in some people, and maybe

Rick can speak to this, is you kind of find that you get this point of satiety where you actually don’t crave all the garbage. Your appetite is finally, you know, sated for the first time maybe in the life, and so it becomes very easy when you’re not starving all the time to sort of stick to a routine and meat. You mentioned Ozempic, and certainly, you know, we know that people are losing weight on Zambic, but there are some potentials

for some real issues with that, whether they’re really bad side effects with gastroparesis or suicidal thoughts or intestinal obstructions. I just saw a couple of studies on blindness and erectile dysfunction. So there’s issues with that. But the mechanism by which it works, it stimulates these hormones called increase in hormones in our body, GLP-1 being one of them, but meat actually

does that naturally. And it does it in a more physiologically appropriate manner, where it does it when it’s supposed to and then comes on, comes off. Whereas these drugs, it stays on all the time, and so people are having issues turning up in the ER, throwing their guts out, throwing up like crazy, or they’re losing all the muscle mass.

And so this is maybe, you know, there may be some things you can do prior to jumping on the drug bandwagon, which is unfortunately a criticism of the healthcare system. We just kind of drugs first and we don’t really give much to lifestyle. Thomas, are you with us there? Is it working there? Yeah, can you hear me?

Okay, yes. So I got to ask you, how much weight have you lost there, sir? 81 pounds as of this morning. So okay, so I’m going to try to tee this up because I really want to hear from you guys and I don’t want to hear from myself. So first question, Thomas,

how long have you been on this diet, this carnivore diet that you’re on now? So I’ve been doing it kind of on and off for two years, but then in the last like 90 days, really been doing just 100%. I was doing more kind of paleo meat-based before,

and then just switched to just 100% meat, eggs, just animal products, and in 70 days, I’ve lost 30 pounds. And Rick, how long have you been on the diet again? How much weight have you lost? So I started July 1st, I was at 233.2 pounds or something and this morning I was just under,

or I was 323.3 and this morning I’m down like 92 pounds. I’m under 200, or 200, 232 pounds. So when did you decide, you’re at the conference, Dr. Sean Baker is speaking, when did it occur to you where you’re going, you know what, I’m going to do this diet? Well, like I said, he was speaking and I was sitting there in the audience. I ordered his book online.

We left there on Friday, it showed up on my house on Saturday and I hate reading books. I made it through about chapter six and I’m like, this just makes sense, because I was never one to eat vegetables to begin with. But I ate all the standard American crap that was there, and the carbs, and potatoes, corn, everything. Fatten up a pig, that’s what I was eating.

So I decided July 1, I was going. My wife decided to do it with me. She’s down 40 pounds, and I’m down 92 pounds. So Thomas, when did you decide to get on the carnivore diet? About two years ago is when I really started at least meat-based, and then I really just got to the point where it was like, okay, it seems like there’s no reason to be eating

the vegetables and that kind of thing, and just went to strictly meat. I’ve followed Dr. Baker for years and years and one of my doctors he he’s like a you should only eat red meat once a month at max and then I went to it as I’ve been doing it I mean check my CRP levels like a week ago and they’re the lowest they’ve been since 2019

so. Now one final question and I’m gonna go back to Dr. Baker here you know so many people say well Clay I want to do the carnivore diet. The questions I got asked a lot at the conferences, people would say, hey, if you get a chance to ask Dr. Sean Baker, when I go on the carnivore diet, how much vegetables can I eat? How many can I eat if I’m on the carnivore diet? How much cereal can I have?

If I’m on the carnivore diet, if I’m on a strictly carnivore diet, how much salad can I have when I go to Outback Steakhouse? What’s the maximum amount of potatoes I can have with the steak at Outback? So Dr. Bakers, I want to ask you, if someone’s on the carnivore diet, what’s the maximum amount of or how much vegetables should they be eating with the meat on the carnivore only diet?

Well, I mean, if it’s technically a carnivore diet, you’re eating none, I mean, essentially. Now, I mean, again, the nice thing about it is it’s very clear. You’re either on or you’re off it. Now, is it going to kill somebody to have a piece of lettuce once in a while? For most people, no. I mean, but there are people, honestly,

that, you know, for whatever reason, things we would otherwise consider normal, healthy foods, unprocessed fruits and vegetables, can actually be problematic for certain people. And this really gets into people with certain autoimmune conditions, certain gut issues.

You know, we’ve just published a number of scientific papers, case series on inflammatory bowel disease, anorexia, anxiety, depression, and there will be one soon coming out on multiple sclerosis. So we’re seeing for certain medical conditions, it’s pretty good. It makes sense to be strict. For some people that are dealing with things like food addiction, the strictness just makes

it easier. Some people cannot be moderators. They’ve got to abstain for a while. So I think in the strictest sense of a carnivore diet, there’s no fruits, there’s no vegetables. It’s pretty much animal products.

It’s meat, it’s eggs, it’s some people dairy products, it’s seafood, things like that. However, could you get healthy on a diet where you’re mostly meat and a few other foods? Certainly, many people can. Although, like I said, this is so simple.

I mean, my dog could do it, and my dog does. I mean, it’s not hard to explain, hey, just eat a bunch of meat every day. And that’s it. It’s as simple as that. I look at, you know, when I look at feeding of animals throughout the world, it’s not

complicated. I mean, we’re the only species that needs menus and apps and all this, you know, this crazy sort of complexity when it should be just eat and it’s simple as that. And I think these guys will probably attest to the simplicity and the actual satiety that comes to this. So I gotta go back to you, Thomas. So you’re on this diet.

I mean, you’re living it, you’re into it, you’re doing it, you’re seeing the results, but there had to be some inner dialogue maybe going on, some inner thoughts, I don’t know. When you’re going, yeah, I’m on the carnivore diet, but I’m going all in on the carnivore diet, which you’ve done now.

Was there a, can you kind of walk us through the inner dialogue or what you were saying to yourself or thinking or just walk us through, because there’s somebody watching this right now that needs to hear this. You know, I think one of the biggest things

was like Dr. Baker said, it’s like it’s hard, it’s easy to follow. It’s not one of these diets where you have to count calories or think about every single food and what’s the glycemic index of it and all that stuff. It’s like meat, eggs, maybe cheese.

And that makes it easy. So I just was like, okay, let’s make it black and white, jump on it, see how it goes, test blood work, that sort of thing and see how it goes. So for me, that was one of the easiest things is just the ease of following it.

And I like steak. So let me ask you this. So Rick, you’re going to, let’s say Outback tonight, okay? You’re going to Texas Roadhouse tonight. You’re going somewhere to eat. I mean you guys are both entrepreneurs Thomas has a wonderful company called full package media calm. They offer real estate photography solutions for people in Dallas I believe also in Austin, Texas. It’s full package media calm full pipe full package media calm

You are the HVAC master which leads me to believe you’re somehow involved in HVAC So when you’re out there on a busy schedule, what are you eating? What are you eating? I got it I go to I love going to Texas Roadhouse, and they don’t have it on their menu But our local Texas Roadhouse usually has larger cuts of steak So I’ll get the 24 ounce for with Fort Worth ribeye or sometimes they’ll have some up there

They’re 28 29 ounces when I first started when I first started doing carnivore I’d go out at lunch when I’d have a lunch menu that need a 16 ounce ribeye and that was the only thing on my plate and then I’d go home and I cook another one and to Dr. Baker’s, you know, your satiety level, I would get stuffed and I would leave this little two-inch cube of steak in the middle of my plate. And I’m like, you hit a wall and your body says, hey, I’m done eating. And that beautiful, tasty, juicy rib eye all of a sudden wants to make you gag.

And you hit that level and you don’t need to eat anymore. And you’re not hungry. You’re not up an hour and a half later grabbing a bag of chip and dip because you’re having a sugar drop, carb spike and everything.

So you just, I started very quickly doing OMAD because it is one meal a day. And I had my butcher cut me some inch and a half ribeyes. And once a day I have like a 28 ounce rib eye for dinner and that’s all I’ll eat all day long. Dr. Baker, I know someone’s watching this going, what?

Is this healthy? Are they going to die? Now you sir, you sat down with a very skeptical Joe Rogan many years ago or a few years ago and when you’re watching the interview, watching his body language and yours, you were bringing the facts, you were presenting data. He was being respectful but you could tell he was very skeptical of what you were saying.

You challenged him or talked to him or convinced him or something. He decided to get on the carnivore diet. He had phenomenal results. Could you tell us what kind of feedback has the carnivore diet had, or what kind of feedback are you getting from America since going on those Joe Rogan interviews? Yeah, like you said, the very first time he was obviously skeptical.

He looked at me like I had a third eyeball, you know, in my head because I was talking crazy talk, which is what it sounds like the first time you hear it. Second time I went on Rogan’s podcast, very different story. He experienced it. He had friends that had done it. He realized that I wasn’t just making this stuff, it actually works.

I think what we’ve seen over the last couple of years, in many ways, to sort of parallel what’s going on politically in this country, a lot of people are sort of skeptical of various entities and organizations, which we once held with high esteem. We’re kind of like, wait a minute, you guys are not telling the truth and you’re leaving out some details. So I think we’ve seen a general trend where more and more people, at the very least, have come to start to believe that no, red meat is not killing us, it’s not bad for us, it’s

not killing the planet, it’s actually a health food. And so I think we’re getting that seen by more and more people probably. You know a significant portion of the country believes that. And certainly a lot of them are seeing the results because it’s undeniable this time. If you just quickly go on any sort of social media platform and type in carnivore diet, you’re going to see obviously the critics, but you’re going to see just thousands upon

thousands of testimonials where this works. And it just does. It’s the only reason I promote something, this sort of thing, is because it clearly works and it works for many, many peoples of all various stripes, shape, size, age, sex, cultural backgrounds, whatever it is. It just plain works.

So I think at the end of the day, good things usually rise to the top and I think that’s what we’re starting to see. Now, what I’m going to do here just to spice it up a little bit today is I’m going to pull up our web page here for the Thrive Time Show for our in-person workshop. We have Eric Trump joining us. That’s President Trump’s son, who by the way, eats a primarily carnivore diet.

I’ve seen him actually lose almost 40-some-odd pounds on the Reawaken tour by eating pretty much only meat. Then you have Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. So anybody watching this right now, if you want to join this diet, here’s what we’re going to do. Right now, okay, so we’re recording this on December 19th, so we have 76 days until the event.

If you will join the carnivore diet, whatever that means, so these are the steps you have to do here. So you go to Amazon, okay, and we’re going to buy a copy of the book here. So we’re all going to Amazon. And Slick Rick, you bought a copy of this book. Thomas, do you have a copy of this book, The Carnivore Diet?

I do. Okay, so this is what you do. What you do is you buy a copy of The Carnivore Diet. That’s step one. So what do you do? You buy a copy.

You say, well, where do I find it? You go to Amazon. You type in Sean Baker, Carnivore Diet. We’ll put a link on the show notes. There you go. You buy a copy.

That’s step one. You buy a copy of the book. Now, step two, what you’re going to do is just text me proof that you bought the book. You say, text you? How do I have your number? I shall give you my number.

My cell phone number that I keep private between you and me and everybody is 918-851. That’s 918-851. Let me pull it up real quick here. It’s on the screen. 918-851-0102. So step one, you buy a copy of the book.

Step two, you send me a screenshot or proof of purchase. Then you’re entered in for a chance to win the backstage pass to meet Dr. Sean Baker, Eric Trump, Robert Kiyosaki, and a great team of speakers we’re bringing in here. So all you got to do is buy the book and text me, proof that you bought it, and you’ll be entered in for a chance to win

a backstage pass so you can talk to Dr. Baker, you can talk to Eric Trump, you can talk to Robert Kiyosaki. And then I would invite you to start this diet, but I think there’s somebody out there, Thomas, who’s smart, and I’m gonna pick on you, Thomas,

because you’re one of the smartest people I know. You’re a smart guy. And smart people, you know, you’re researching. Thomas, for anybody who doesn’t know, Thomas is a researcher. Thomas, you’d put a lot of research into your company.

That’s just the way you think. I would describe you as an intellectual who also does things. You’re a smart guy. You think. You contemplate. There’s got to be somebody out there, Thomas, who’s watching the show who’s smart like you are and as smart like you were, and they’re going, oh, me, I mean, I don’t know. Will I get abducted by an alien? Is it going to kill me? I don’t know. Is it safe? Is it healthy? But Bill Gates says I should I shouldn’t eat meat at all. What do you say, Thomas, to the intellectual skeptic?

I think I would say, if you just look at it from a fundamental standpoint of how long animals and humans have been on the earth, and we’ve eaten meat that whole time, and we’re all still here, and if you look at most of the health problems that the modern American diet and processed foods and sugar and all those things have have brought into place is like it just and that’s what made me switch to just saying okay I’m gonna go all in and do it a hundred percent is it just seemed logical of like meats been here

humans have been here we’ve been eating meat for millions of years it’s probably not going to kill you so I think if you’re on the fence it’s like just try it like you’re not you’re not you know I know people worry about like cholesterol and stuff like that but if you if you try it for a month, three months, six months, like it doesn’t seem like it should take much to convince you to try it versus trying eating

Lucky Charms every morning and McDonald’s for dinner and that kind of stuff. Now we have a clip here, Dr. Baker, I wanna play for you. This is from America’s health expert, Bill Gates, just incredible, incredible individual. Let me play this here.

He’s just incredible, really a specimen when it comes to health and fitness. We have cows and other grass eating species have a digestion system that emits methane. And methane is a very powerful greenhouse gas. And so cows alone account for about 6% of global emissions.

And so we need to change cows, just cows alone. How are we going to do that? Well, actually of all the categories, the one that has gone better than I would have expected five years ago is this work to make what’s called artificial meat. And so you have people like Impossible or Beyond Meat,

both of which I invested in. You eat it as well? And you like it? Absolutely. You can go to Burger King and buy the Impossible Burger. All right, is it healthier for you

or just healthier for the atmosphere? It’s slightly healthier for you in terms of less cholesterol. It’s, of course, dramatic reduction in methane emissions, animal cruelty, manure management, and the pressure that meat consumption puts on land use. There is of course a clear financial motive to Gates’ plan. Oh come on, there’s not a clear financial motive for Bill Gates to tell you to eat synthetic

meat. Dr. Baker, what’s your reaction, sir? Well, I mean, the one on the good side, he’s no longer quoting this livestock’s long shadow thing that says 14 or 18 percent of the greenhouse gases come from, so at least that’s on the pro side. He’s more in line with what’s actually going. We do know that cows emit something like 5% of our greenhouse gas.

It’s actually all animal agriculture. But the reality is that is biogenic methane, which has been going on since whenever it started. We’ve had animals, larger grazing animals, doing that methane to short-live. It goes in the atmosphere, turns back into carbon dioxide and water and then it feeds and waters the plants. And you know, that’s the cycle.

That’s the cycle of nature. This is literally what the earth is, is roaming, grazing animals on the planet. And so, I mean, what he’s doing is basically creating a solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist and financially benefiting from that. So I mean, you can see, I mean, this is an older clip, so you can see what’s happened to Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger, particularly Beyond Meat, which had its IPO several years ago

and now it’s gone from a $250 stock price to like three or four bucks. So it’s probably going to go bankrupt unless the government props it up. These alternative meat products are in no way healthier than meat. There’s no evidence that they’re any more environmentally sustainable. In many cases, they’re likely less sustainable. And to make the assumption that just because I’m not eating a steak means no animals are

dying, that’s, that’s, there couldn’t be anything farther from the truth. You can talk to anybody that raises crops, they will tell you that by the use of pesticides and just preparing land, there’s massive death of, you know, species, you know, going on. So it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s all, you know, sort of a, I mean, it’s come across, it’s portrayed as altruism, but it’s really greed. It’s not like we want to save the planet by doing this.

It’s just we’re going to create a new market and take your money that way. It’s not going to help you in any way. It’s really not going to help the planet in any better way. The better thing we can do is actually put more cows in the ground and just graze them in a way that tends to be more favorable to the land. That’s clearly demonstrated and doable.

That’s the real solution here. So let me tee this up again here real quick. Let me tee this up again. So for anybody out there, you say, well, I do want to win a backstage pass to meet Eric Trump. Again, you say, how much does it cost again?

All you got to do is you go up to Amazon, okay? You search for the carnivore diet, you buy the book, boom, step one. Step two, you text me proof that you bought the book. Now you’re entered in for the chance. You’re entered in for a chance. All you got to do is just text me, 918-851-0102.

Just text me that you have bought the book, screenshot this. By the way, we helped Cash Patel become a best-selling author by doing this. Cash Patel went to the top of Amazon in one day by doing this. We have helped Peter Navarro become a best-selling author by doing this. I am doing this simply because I really do deeply care about Thomas, and I deeply care about Rick, and you guys have told me, I didn’t call you and say hey are you guys on the

carnivore diet you guys were just we’re just talking about things and I told you guys that that the Sean Baker was coming to our coming back to one of our workshops and Thomas you said you said clay I’ve been on the carnivore diet and again how much weight have you lost Thomas 81 pounds so there’s people watching this who are like I just have concerns and I’m sure there’s people around you Thomas people in your life family friends neighbors I’m sure they’ve asked you questions.

What are the areas of pushback that you may have gotten from family, friends, concerned people that actually care about you that maybe said, I don’t know, is that good for you? Have you had those kind of questions? Definitely have. I’d say probably the number one thing that people talk about is cholesterol. And they point to that as an immediate, like, hey, your cholesterol is going to go up, especially

with eggs, red meat. And so that’s what I hear the most is, well, your cholesterol is gonna skyrocket and you’re gonna need to go on a statin. And I don’t really worry about it. I’d be interested to hear what Dr. Baker has to say.

Because mine has gone up a little bit, nothing crazy, but went up from like my LDL from 122 to 140 in six months, which I know is not crazy, but my triglycerides have gone way down, HDL’s gone up, but that’s the biggest thing that I hear from people.

Dr. Baker, hey, Vanessa, Vanessa, come here, my wife is in the studio. My wife’s, come here real quick here, we gotta get you in here real quick. Throw on some headphones, you gotta get her. Okay, so Dr. Baker, I gotta ask you real quick here.

Will someone’s brain explode, and will they die of cholesterol if they eat only meat for 30 days? No, unlikely. I know that was kind of asked in a little humorous way, but the reality is we do sometimes see people’s cholesterol rise on low-carb diets in general and we now kind of have a

pretty good idea why that is. It’s not because they’re consuming more saturated fat. It’s really associated with how lean they get. As we get leaner and leaner and we rely more on fat for energy rather than glucose for energy, our body just has to traffic more lipid in the blood vessels so we can feed our cells. And the question is, is that reason for high cholesterol different from

someone who is, say, obese and just eating too much energy? They both can cause cholesterol to go up, but there’s two different reasons for that. And we are getting more and more evidence to show that when you become leaner and less dependent on glucose and you have higher lipids trafficking there’s something called a lipid energy model. There’s about 10 scientific papers on this that have been published now

that there’s probably good evidence increasingly and we’re doing more and more studies on this to show that that may not be the risk factor for cardiovascular disease that we once thought it was. Like many things there’s some nuance here and generally I would say both of these guys probably their quality of life and their overall health has improved pretty dramatically.

It’s pretty generally health promoting. Now, Vanessa, just real quick, this is Thomas Cross. You know Thomas? I know Thomas, yes. He’s down 81 pounds by eating only meat. Look at this guy.

Great job. Congratulations. He’s unbelievable. Thank you. I was trying to focus in the camera. I was trying to zoom in to see him.

I’m like, where is he? I know he’s in the studio, where is he? And then you’ve got over here Slick Rick. Slick Rick, how much weight have you lost in six months? 92 pounds. Wow.

And these homeboys are eating only meat all the time. So I’d like for you to bring a voice of sanity here and perhaps a little estrogen. You know, you’re a mom, we’ve got five kids. What question or questions would you have for Dr. Baker about the idea of eating only meat all the time? Well, I 100% believe that it works and I’m just an odd ball where I’m

one of those kids who was super picky, never had a bite of steak in my entire life. So I’m not a vegetarian, it’s not because I feel bad, I’ll eat eggs, I’ll eat chicken if it’s not weird, I’m just, it’s immensely in my mind. So I think for someone like me, maybe it’s the most of, you know, I try to add protein powder in and collagen and eggs. Dr. Baker, can’t we just take a perch in a pitcher, like in a blender, put a put like a perch in a pitcher and blend it up and just have her

liquefy and puree fish and meat and that kind of thing. Or what would be the solution for somebody as troubled as my wife? Well, I mean, I don’t know how it works. I just have a mental thing. So, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, some of it, you know, it depends on how you grew up. And my wife, to be honest, my wife, she’s from France and she was vegetarian for like

20 years and she still eats steak now, but she still, she will not cook it. She has to have it well done, which drives me crazy a little bit, but because she just wasn’t used to that idea of thinking it’s blood. And by the way, there’s no blood in meat. Meat isn’t, that red stuff is not blood is myoglobin so it’s not actual blood people worry about

on you know I think that you know for well many of us on this carver dot do consume a lot of like beef and lamb particularly primarily be there’s people that had success consuming you know eggs and pork and fish and things like that so it’s doable from that way the problem they often run into is because that becomes so valuable on the

start read me to stand have a little bit more fat. Cows are fattier animals than say chickens. And so you run into issues of not consuming enough fat. And so then you have to augment energy. Now you can add butter and all this stuff on there, one way to do it. But a lot of people, they just find it’s easier to consume carbohydrates.

And so that’s why, you know, if we look at like the history of humans, you know, we hunted for a while, we killed these big animals, they kind of ran out. We had to end up hunting skinnier animals, which didn’t have as much fat, so then we had to augment our energy supply with more and more plant products. We developed agriculture, and then we kind of went downhill as a species since that time. We got smaller, our brains shrunk, our bones got weaker.

You know, agriculture certainly helped us to grow societally. We had civilization, and it allowed for us to stay in one place and not have to kinda roam around chasing animal herds but it had an individual detriment to our overall human health so

uh… you know i i i like some people you know i mean i’m sure claudia excellent access to really high quality meat i mean sometimes like some like my wife in particular she’s still in like the fact that i could really buy a steak she’s cutting all the fat off which drives me crazy so i get around that by getting like a really well marbled, like a USDA Prime, maybe a Tenderloin,

which has more fat marbled, but it doesn’t have those pockets of fat, which can be off-putting for some people. So getting enough fat in there, if you’re going to go carnivore. Now if you’re not, just including more protein would help many, many people. That’d be the road for me, is just kind of try to integrate- Well, I’m trying to convince you to switch to a carnivore diet.

I’m trying to convince Thomas to convince you to switch to a carnivore diet. I’m just kidding. So Slick Rick, I’ve got to ask you, you’ve lost, again, I’m just taking notes here, I want to make sure I’m not exaggerating, 92 pounds in how many days? 171 days today. So what questions or concerns do people in your life have when they go, Rick, are you

only going to eat meat again? What questions do they have? So many people, they bring up the cholesterol. I had blood work done 75 days in and my cholesterol dropped 30 points. Doctor was ecstatic.

My insulin had dropped and everything. Of course, everyone’s like, you’re not eating any fiber. You’re gonna have colon cancer and all that. And he’ll contest, when you eat nothing but meat, it’s pure nutrition. When it comes to having your bowel movement in the morning,

there’s not a lot there because your body absorbs it. When you eat all the standard American crap, you end up with a lot of crap. Okay, so Thomas, I’m going to give you an opportunity, and I want my wife to think about the perfect question to paint Dr. Baker into the corner here. So Thomas, what question would you have for Dr. Baker about the carnivore diet, sir? Yeah, so I think my biggest question, so I have ankylosing spondylitis. I was diagnosed with that

when I was like 15, and I’ve been on Celebrex ever since then, and curious to hear your thoughts on like managing that with carnivore, and obviously the goal there would be to get off medication. I just was able to cut my dose in half a couple weeks ago because that CRP number was so low. And again, my doctor for that is a don’t, you know, eat red meat once a month, that’s it, that’s max. So curious to hear your thoughts on that and kind of how to how to manage that and if that’s possible to hopefully get medication free with that. Yeah, so those aren’t familiar with ankylosing

spondylitis, it’s what we call an inflammatory arthropathy. So like kind of like in the category of like rheumatoid arthritis, we have these autoimmune inflammation driven arthritis conditions and carnivore diet has been wonderful for allowing people to to see their inflammation drop as he just pointed out the CRP was very very low which is what we expect to see. If red meat were

inflammatory we wouldn’t see that we would expect it to go high. So as those inflammatory markers go down and your symptoms go away, the back pain goes away, you know maybe if you have SI joint pain or something along like I would expect you to be able to continue to taper and hopefully come off those drugs. We see that all the time now.

Again, what I will say is that when we have people with these medical conditions, whether it’s ulcerative colitis, Crohn’s disease, ankylosing spondylitis, rheumatoid arthritis, it usually takes six months a year of a fairly strict diet to sort of put that completely in remission, get people off medications when it does occur. And then at that point, some people are able to loosen things up a little bit. They’re able to bring some things back in.

So I don’t sort of sit there and say this is what you’re going to have to eat for the rest of your life. I consider a carnivore diet a therapeutic intervention. Minimum for most people is about three months. Some people need it three months, six months, a year. And then most people that do this over the long term will include periodically things

here. They’re still going to eat a lot of meat. I mean they’re still going to be eating mostly meat if not completely. Some people just like it for the sake of being easy but I mean yes you probably because taking cell works every day you know

stocks to and and that’s really an inflammatory it has downstream effects kidney effects it has affects on on our overall so we want to get off medications whenever whenever possible there’s no up there’s no advantage to be on meds when you don’t need to be on them for sure

that’s that’s I think that’s a pretty safe statement. So you can get off that if you’ve got the cooperation of your doctor. I’m going to put in one plug for our company, Rivera, which we are a digital health company licensed in all 50 states, and we have physicians that actually do this on a daily basis. They de-prescribe, they work with patients. Some of them are on Carver, some are on some other closed version, and that’s what we do.

And it’s been really, really fun to watch these people come out. Real quick, I’m taking notes here, Dr. Baker, so I am hacking away in the mainframe as you are sharing here. What’s that web address there, sir? What’s that web address? So go to, it’s called Revero, R-E-V-E-R-O, R-E-V-E-R-O.com. Okay, so that’s Revero.

We are signing people up left and right. We just hired a bunch more physicians, so we do this and we just basically, we provide nutrition plans, we provide physician support, we provide coaches that interact with people on a daily basis if they need it. I mean, literally I contact you every day to make sure you are getting your questions answered, getting support.

You need, we’re checking labs all the time. We’re checking feedback from our patients every day. We send the monitors to monitor stuff. And it’s, it’s really, you know, and I know, you know, you know, you said, Eric, Trump’s going to be there. I know we’ve got this make America healthy again thing, and this is.

A way to do this. This is a way that I’m very passionate about, is that we are actually putting into practice what we’ve been preaching for many years. I’ve been a critic of the healthcare system just because I think we’re incentivized the wrong way, we’re doing all this reactionary, pill for every ill type of thing, when the reality is we should be fixing people’s health so we don’t have so many sick people.

We wouldn’t have to spend $4.5 trillion a year if we didn’t have 60% or 70% of the country with chronic disease. And if we can fix that, it’s going to go a long way to make our country better. Now I’m going to pull this up real quick before we go to Vanessa here. This is just an idea. I don’t know if this will work, Thomas, if you’re okay with this. But now that you’ve lost all this weight, I mean, you’re looking handsome.

So if you could just kind of change it, Dr. Baker, if you could change the way you say it, you could say, Rivero, the Rivero, the health company. And you could put Thomas in as the model look at this second Thomas you get Thomas in it Do you want to try to Rivera? Yes? He said you want to get the sexy see Thomas You could be like the male model for all you gotta do is cuz Thomas looks like he would speak that way if you didn’t

Know him you would think that he’s a swarthy looking I’m ready. I’m I’m on the waitlist. I’m ready to go. Awesome. Vanessa, I know that you weren’t planning on hopping on today’s show, but I could see that you were behind me back there.

I had to get you in here. What question would you have? Do you have a final question? How much of a concern or do you think it’s a concern? I think it’s really important to eat high-quality meats like you mentioned. I know when I buy ground beef, it’s grass-fed.

Now you hear about, of course, all the shots that they’re giving the animals and mRNA injections and hormones. How picky do you have to be about the meats you select, you know, when you’re eating only meat? Yeah, that’s a great question. And I think it’s, you know, I think you look at it from two ways, from an individual way

and then as a societal way. I mean, are we, you know, like I said, there’s this Bovair, you know, substance they’re going to feed the animals. This is something Bill Gates, I don’t know if you’ve read about that. I’ve read about that, yeah. But he’s investing in similar type things.

And again, is it a solution to a problem we don’t have? Is it unnecessarily driving up the cost and making it more expensive for farmers? Probably. I mean, it’s going to put a lot of them out of business, to be honest. And so we’re going to lose our access to that. On an individual level, I literally see people going to Walmart and buying meat and losing

100 pounds like these guys do. So, I mean, on a more sort of macro level, on a population level, I said, yeah, you can just do what you can afford. And if you can’t afford the best high-end stuff, you don’t have to do that. Now, again, if your ethics and your beliefs and you want to promote ranching or farming in a certain way, then absolutely, it makes sense to spend the extra couple of bucks there

to do that. But, I mean, we’re waiting on studies. I mean, I know some of the guys are doing some research on this and we don’t have any good studies on humans yet because it’s just hard to get this stuff funded because everybody’s putting their money in for drug development and these types of things don’t make a lot of money for people.

So I can certainly say don’t feel guilty if you can’t afford that stuff. If you can and you certainly want to help these ranchers out, I would say buy direct from a rancher. I mean, it’s a great way to do it. It will keep these guys in business longer. You guys are in Oklahoma, which is a huge, huge cattle state.

I know I was working with Clay Stairs on perhaps having some Oklahoma folks do some research around this stuff. So, it is probably more important, I should say, just based on the anatomy, the physiology and the anatomy of the animals, that you eat high-quality fish, chicken, and pork just because they’re monogastric animals as opposed to ruminants and they have less tolerance to crappy diets showing up in their meat, whereas cows kind of, they’re magic animals.

They really are. I mean, they’re just like the perfect species and they can just turn whatever into really high quality nutritious food for us, which is really cool. Now, just to be clear, folks, I want people to understand this. Thomas, his company, it’s called Full Package Media, they do real estate photography. He is not a model.

Vanessa, you know this. Thomas is not a model. So I don’t want people going to full package media going Excuse me. Can I get the Rivero model? Is it is it possible? Can I hire him to come out and do my no, he’s not a modeling service. They do real estate photography, right Thomas? You’re not offering. I know the inquiries have really gone up for your male modeling services You’re you’re not offering modeling services. You’re just real estate photography, correct? Not not currently, but who knows. Now again, that’s Rivero, folks. That’s the

website, Rivero. Yes. Check out Rivero if you want to get the sexy. Yes. Now Slick Rick, you’re a beautiful man and you came to our business conference and it was the craziest thing ever because I recognized your face, but I didn’t. And you’ve lost how much weight? 92 pounds? 92 pounds, 171 days. Craziness. So final question, what final question do you have for Dr. Baker there? And then we’ll do one final question from Tom. So, one final question, because everybody’s online asking, if I’m on a carnivore diet,

what can I eat? We established that early, you just only eat meat. Next question people say, well, is eating the carnivore diet healthy? I think we’ve covered that, but what question would you have for Dr. Sean Baker? I don’t know if I’ve got a question, but I’d say anybody who’s interested in it. You know, I think all of us have done all the major diets, the Weight

Watchers, the intermittent fasting, all that. You pay money, you get on a plan, you restrict yourself, you’re miserable on it. When you get off, you’re like, God, I can eat again now, and then your weight comes back on. The thing about carnivore, you get on it, you’re full, you’re not, I mean, your diet’s restricted, but you’re not walking around in a hunger state. And I’m 51 years old and I’ve never experienced hunger because I was a clock eater.

I mean, 8.30 in the morning, I’m planning what I’m going to eat at 11 o’clock and who with and where we’re going to go. And then calling the wife, what are we having for dinner? And then, you know, snacks in the evening.

And when I started carnivore, all that just kind of washed away. My whole relationship with food changed and it wasn’t all about the you know just eating to be eating you start learning that it’s there for nutrition and food and As people as people see you change they start asking you questions They’re intrigued by it. I get people call me a couple times

You know and you start coaching them through and they always ask the question. Can I still have a baked potato? Like you can have whatever you want. It depends on the results you want to get Nobody’s gonna come to your house and say you’re not a true carnivore You know it you know I have I have one I Have a cousin his wife and I’m curious about this because I hear so many Doctors opinions that I know from my own thing is like BS

Because I got one he’s 5 7 and he’s 260 pounds and he’s got a hernia doctor wants them to lose weight and they recommended gastric bypass Like how ridiculous is that? Now my wife doctor Baker. She stays thin by smoking. She started smoking about six months ago She just that’s a smoke her way to thin. That’s what she does She just she wasn’t sure where to start so she went and said what do you recommend? I’m thinking about getting addicted to this one

Just mess me so Thomas what final question would you have for Dr. Baker, sir? Yeah, I think my final question, and you kind of talked a little bit about it earlier, and I’ve heard you put out some stuff on the lean mass hyper-responder type person, individual. Is that, do you only see that in people that are below a certain body fat percentage, or is that people that are kind of on that path to losing weight with any sort of low, no carb, carnivore-based diet?

Yeah, that again goes to the cholesterol question. And so, like as to the point of Rick, he said, my cholesterol actually went down. The reason it went down is because he was probably of a BMI probably above class 2 obesity. And so when we see people that are significantly obese, when they go carnivore or low carb, their cholesterol usually comes down. But once they get to a certain threshold and they start getting like below BMI 25 and they

start getting leaner and leaner, that’s when we often see the cholesterol going up. That gets into the question, is that dangerous or not? That’s where the answer is, we don’t know for sure, it probably isn’t, or at least there’s evidence to suggest it’s not. I think that what we do show, and there was a really nice meta-analysis done in January of this year, 2024, they looked at 41 randomized controlled trials

of low-carb and they found the biggest relationship again was lean body mass, most predictor for high cholesterol, higher body mass, it either doesn’t matter or it actually goes down. And then, you know, it’s one of those things that, and saturated fat had no, saturated fat had very little impact. In fact, you can go on a low-carb diet and eat all like olive oil and unsaturated fat, you know, nuts and things like that, and you’ll see your cholesterol go up.

And people have demonstrated that. My friend Nick Norwich, who is an Oxford PhD, Harvard MD, has shown that eating Oreo cookies, believe it or not, he actually was able to lower his cholesterol by eating Oreo cookies just because of this lipid energy model and what it would predict. So he went out and he ate 12 Oreo cookies a day and dropped his cholesterol by 200 points just by eating Oreo cookies.

Now I’m not advocating for eating Oreo cookies as a health food, but it’s just to demonstrate that this is what’s going on. We know why it’s happening now. Let me pull this up. Let me pull this up here. Final thoughts.

I want to make sure we’re all on the same page here. If you want to meet, that would be Dr. Sean Baker. The Rivero! Or you want to meet the man who wants to be the male model, potentially, who could be, who should be the male model for Rivero. And you want to meet Eric Trump, and you want to meet Robert Kiyosaki, and you want to meet

my wife who’s been smoking her way to thin for several… No. No. If you want to meet the dream team, all you’ve got to do is, step one, I’ve got the steps here, okay, so step one, you go to Amazon, you find the Carnivore Diet. This is how you win a backstage pass.

You go to Carnivore Diet, you go to Amazon, you look for the Carnivore Diet, you buy a copy. You buy a copy and you screenshot it. If you for some reason can’t figure out how to screenshot it, draw me a picture of you buying the book. Do whatever you have to and then just text me to my cell phone number.

We’ll keep this private between you and me and everybody. That’s my cell phone number, 918-851-0102. You text me, proof of purchase, boom, you have a chance to win a backstage pass. As of right now, as of this morning, we have 214 tickets remaining for our in-person workshop. That’s going to be accessible. That’s the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive workshop.

It’s going to be March 6th and 7th in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I affectionately refer to it as Tulsa Rusulam. March 6th and 7th, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Everybody out there, you should come to this event, but if you want to earn a chance to win a backstage pass, all you’ve got to do is buy the book, that’s The Carnivore Diet, on Amazon.

Text me proof of purchase to my cell phone number, 918-851-0102. And if you want to learn more about Rivero, and I know you do, what you do is you just go to Rivero.com, and if you feel like Thomas should replace this guy, I don’t even trust this guy. I don’t know who this guy is. But if you want Thomas to replace this guy, just text me to my cell phone number, folks, seriously.

If you say, this guy has to get replaced with the true face of Rivero, Thomas Crossin, just text my cell phone number, 918-851-0102, and I’ll make sure that all of your feedback gets directly to Sean Baker, because I know he wants to spend his day

talking to you about who his male model should be for his website, Rivero.com. Dr. Baker, you’re the star of today’s show, sir. I’ll give you the final word, final 30 seconds. What say you? Well, I say thank you.

I love to see folks here in March in person. So if you haven’t already purchased your ticket, you want to go get it because I know they’re going to go fast and we’ll be able to stay together while we’re there. Big thing, don’t outsource your help to someone else. As a physician, I can tell you I care about my patients,

but I only have like 15 minutes, you know, 15 minutes a couple times a year to care about you. You’ve got to live with the results 24-7. This is worth trying. You’ll learn a lot of stuff about yourself. And it’s very educational.

As what Rick was saying, you’ll change your relationship with food. I think that’s essential. So many of us have bad relationships with food. This fixes it in many ways. So give it a try and have great holidays. Thank you so much.

Merry Christmas, everybody. Thomas Crossin. Thank you, Slick Rick. I really do appreciate you. I mean this, folks. I just, I was so excited to hear that Rick, he came up to me and he said, Clay, I’ve been on the

carnivore diet since the workshop. I’ve lost over 80 pounds, mind-blowing. I’m on the phone with Thomas talking about your results, Rick. He said, I’ve been on the carnivore diet. I’m just super excited to hear success stories. If you guys want to learn about the controversial approach my wife has taken to smoking her

way to thin, you can talk to her about that at our workshop. Thank you guys. I really do appreciate it. We’ll talk to you soon. Take care. Bye-bye.

Thanks, Clay. Hello, I’m Jordan, and this is my brother. And I’m Nace, and we’re with the Grid Down Chow Down. And this is Larry, who is a local rancher that we’ve partnered with. So we like to partner with the ranchers just like Larry to provide the best meat for Grid Down Chow Down.

Now, Larry, you’ve been ranching for over four generations, is that correct? That’s correct. I’m third generation, my son’s fourth generation, and I’ve got some grandkids that are fifth generation. Man, that’s awesome. And we’ve been here for quite a while, yeah.

Clay Clark is here somewhere. Where’s my buddy Clay? Clay is the greatest. I met his goats today, I met his dogs, I met his chickens, I saw his compound. He’s like the greatest guy. I ran from his goats, his chickens, his dogs. So this guy’s like the greatest marketer you’ve ever seen, right? His entire life, Clay Clark, his entire life is marketing. Okay Aaron Antis, March 6th and 7th, March 6th and 7th

guess who’s coming to Tulsa Russela? Santa Claus? No, that’s March, March 6th and 7th. We’re gonna be joined by Robert Kiyosaki, Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of Rich Dad Poor Dad, possibly the best-selling or one of the best-selling business authors of all time and he’s gonna be joined with Eric Trump. He’ll be joined by Eric Trump. We got Eric Trump and Robert Kiyosaki in the same place.

In the same place. Aaron, why should everybody show up to hear Robert Kiyosaki? Well, you got billions of dollars of business experience between those two, not to mention many, many, many millions of books have been sold. Many, many millionaires have been made from the books

that have been sold by Robert Kiyosaki. I happen to be one of them. I learned from the man. He was the inspiration. That book was the inspiration for me to get the entrepreneurial spirit, as many other people.

Now, since you won’t brag on yourself, I will. You’ve sold billions of dollars of houses, am I correct? That is true. And the book that kickstarted it all for you, Rich Dad Pornhub, the bestselling author of Rich Dad Pornhub, Robert Kiyosaki, the guy that kick-started

your career, he’s going to be here. He’s going to be here. I’m pumped. And now Eric Trump, people don’t know this, but the Trump Organization has thousands of employees. There’s not 50 employees.

The Trump Organization, again, most people don’t know this, but the Trump Organization has thousands of employees. And while Donald J. Trump was the 45th president of these United States and soon to be the 47th president of these United States, he needed someone to run the companies for him. And so the man that runs the Trump organization for Donald J. Trump as he was the 45th president of the United States and now the 47th president of the United States is Eric Trump.

So Eric Trump is here to talk about time management, promoting from within, marketing, branding, quality control, sales systems, workflow design, workflow mapping, how to build. I mean, everything you see, the Trump hotels, the Trump golf courses, all their products, the man who manages billions of dollars of real estate and thousands of employees is here to teach us how to do it.

You are talking about one of the greatest brands on the planet from a business standpoint. I mean, who else has been able to create a brand like the Trump brand? I mean, look at it. And this is the man behind the business for

the last pretty much since 2015. He’s been the man behind it so you’re talking we’re into nine going into ten years of him running it and we get to tap into that knowledge. That’s gonna be amazing. Now think about this for a second. Would you buy a ticket just to see Robert Kiyosaki and Eric Trump? Of course you would. But we’re also going to be joined by Sean Baker. This is the best-selling author, the guy who invented the carnivore diet.

Dr. Sean Baker, he’s been on Joe Rogan multiple times. He’s going to be joining us. So you’ve got Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad, Eric Trump, Sean Baker. The lineup continues to grow, and this is how we do our tickets here at the Thrive Time Show.

If you want to get a VIP ticket, you can absolutely do it. It’s $500 for a VIP ticket. We’ve always done it that way. Now, if you want to take a general admission ticket, it’s $250 or whatever price you want to pay. And the reason why I do that and the reason why we do that is because we want to make our events affordable for everybody. I grew up without money. I

totally understand what it’s like to be in a tight spot. So if you want to attend, it’s $250 or whatever price you want to pay. That’s how I do it. And it’s $500 for a VIP ticket. Now we only have limited seating here, but the most people we’ve ever had in this building was for the Jim Brewer presentation. Jim Brewer came here, the legendary comedian Jim Brewer came to Tulsa, and we had 419 people that were here. 419 people.

Yeah. And I thought to myself, there’s no more room. I felt kind of bad that a couple people had VIP seats in the men’s restroom. Oh, no, I’m just kidding. But I felt, so I thought, you know what?

We should probably add on. So we’re adding on what we call the upper deck, or the top shelf. The seats are very close to the presenters, but we’re actually building right now, we’re adding on to the facility to make room to accommodate another 30 attendees or more. So again, if you want to get tickets for this event, all you have to do is go to Thrivetimeshow.com,

go to Thrivetimeshow.com, when you go to Thrivetimeshow.com, you’ll go there, you’ll request a ticket, boom. Or if you want to text me, if you want a little bit faster service, you say, I want you to call me right now. Just text my number. It’s my cell phone number, my personal cell phone number.

We’ll keep that private between you, between you, me, everybody. We’ll keep that private. And anybody, don’t share that with anybody except for everybody. That’s my private cell phone number. It’s 918-851-0102, 918-851-0102.

I know we have a lot of Spanish-speaking people that attend these conferences. To be bilingually sensitive, my cell phone number is 918-851-0102. That is not actually bilingual. That’s just saying one for a one. I think you’re attacking me. Now, let’s talk about this.

What kind of stuff will you learn at the Thrive Time Show workshop? Aaron, you’ve been to many of these over the past seven, eight years, so let’s talk about it. I’ll tee up the thing, and then you tell me what you’re going to learn here, OK? OK.

You’re going to learn marketing, marketing and branding. What are we going to learn about marketing and branding? Oh, yeah. We’re going to dive into, you know, so many people say, oh, you know, I’ve got to get my brand known out there, like the Trump brand.

You want to get that brand out there. It’s like, how do I actually make people know what my business is and make it a household name? You’re going to learn some intricacies of how you can do that. You’re going to learn sales. So many people struggle to sell something.

This just in, your business will go to hell if you can’t sell, so we’re going to teach you sales. We’re going to teach you search engine optimization, how to come up top in the search engine results. We’re going to teach you how to manage people. Aaron, you have managed, no exaggeration, hundreds of people throughout your career and thousands of contractors, and most people

struggle with managing people. Why does everybody have to learn how to manage people? Well, because first of all, people are either have great people or you have people who suck. And so it could be a challenge. Learning how to work with a large group of people

and get everybody pulling in the same direction can be a challenge. But if you have the right systems, you have the right processes, and you’re really good at selecting great ones. And we have a process we teach about how to find great people.

When you start with the people who have a great attitude, they’re teachable, they’re driven, all of those things, then you can get those people all pulling in the same direction. So we’re going to teach you branding, marketing, sales, search engine optimization.

We’re going to teach you accounting. We’re going to teach you personal finance, how to manage your finance. We’re going to teach you time management. How do you manage your time? How do you get more done during a typical day? How do you build an organization if you’re not organized? How do you do organization? How do you build an

org chart? Everything that you need to know to start and grow a business will be taught during this two-day interactive business workshop. Now let me tell you how the format is set up here. Again, folks, this is a two-day interactive, 15… Think about this, folks. It’s two days. Each day starts at 7 a.m. and it goes until 5 p.m. So from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m., two days.

It’s a two-day interactive workshop. The way we do it is we do a 30-minute teaching session, and then we break for 15 minutes for a question and answer session. So Aaron, what kind of great stuff happens during that 15-minute question and answer session after every teaching session? I actually think it’s the best part about the workshops because here’s what happens. I’ve been to

lots of these things over the years. I’ve paid many thousands of dollars to go to them and you go in there and they talk in vague generalities and they’re constantly upselling you for something trying to get you to buy this thing or that thing or this program or this membership and you don’t you leave not getting your very specific questions answered about your business or your employees or what you’re doing on your marketing.

And what’s awesome about this is we literally answer every single question that any person asks. And it’s very specific to what your business is. And what we do is we allow you as the attendee to write your questions on the whiteboard. And then we literally, as you mentioned, we answer every single question on the whiteboard. And then we take a 15-minute break to stretch and to make it entertaining when you’re stretching.

And this is a true story. When you get up and stretch, you’ll be greeted by mariachis. There’s going to probably be alpaca here, llamas, helicopter rides, a coffee bar, a snow cone. I mean, there’s just… You had a crocodile one time. That was pretty interesting. You know, I should write that down. Sorry for that one guy that we lost. The crocodile, we duct taped its face. Right? We duct taped… No, it was a baby crocodile.

Yeah, duct taped around the mouth so it didn’t bite anybody. But it was really cool to pass that thing around. I should do that. We have a small petting zoo that will be assembled. It’s going to be great. And then you’re in the company of hundreds of entrepreneurs.

So there’s not a lot of people in America today. In fact, there’s less than 10 million people today, according to US Debt Clock, that identify as being self-employed. So if you have a country with 350 million people, that means you have less than 3% of our population that’s even self-employed.

So you only have 3 out of every 100 people in America that are self-employed to begin with and when Inc. Magazine reports that 96% of businesses fail by default, by default you have a 1 out of a thousand chance of succeeding in the game of business. But yet the average client that you and I work with, we can typically double this. No hyperbole, no exaggeration. I have thousands of

testimonials to back this up. We have thousands of testimonials to back it up. But when you work with a home builder, when I work with a business owner, we can typically double the size of the company within 24 months. Yeah. And you say double? Yeah, there’s businesses that we have tripled. There’s businesses we’ve grown 8x. There’s so many examples. You can see it throughout timeshow.com. But again, this is the most interactive best business workshop on the planet.

This is objectively the highest rated and most reviewed business workshop on the planet. And then you add to that Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. You add to that Eric Trump, the man that runs the Trump Organization. You add to that Sean Baker. Now you might say, but Clay, is there more? I need more! Well, okay, Tom Wheelwright is the wealth strategist for Robert Kiyosaki.

So people say, Robert Kiyosaki, who’s his financial wealth advisor? Who’s the guy who manages? Who’s his wealth strategist? His wealth strategist, Tom Wheelwright, will be here. And you say, Clay, I still, I’m not going to get a ticket unless you give me more. OK, fine.

We’re going to serve you the same meal both days. True story. We cater to food. And because I keep it simple, I literally bring in the same food both days for lunch. It’s Ted Esconzito’s, an incredible Mexican restaurant.

That’s going to happen. And Jill Donovan, our good friend, who is the founder of Rustic Cuff. She started that company in her home. And now she sells millions of dollars of apparel and products. That’s rusticcuff.com.

And someone says, I want more. This is not enough! Okay, I’m not going to mention their names right now because I’m working on it behind the scenes here. But we’ve got one guy who’s given me a verbal to be here. And this is a guy who’s one of the wealthiest people in Oklahoma. And nobody really knows who he is because he’s built systems that are very utilitarian.

That offer a lot of value. He’s made a lot of money in the… It’s where you rent… It’s short term… It’s where you’re renting storage spaces. He’s a storage space guy. He owns this what do you call that the rental the Storage space storage units this guy owns storage units. He owns railroad cars He owns a lot of assets that make money on a daily basis But they’re not like customer facing most people don’t know who owns the mini storage Facility or most people don’t know who owns the

railroad cars, but this guy is giving me a verbal that he will be here. We just continue to add more and more success stories. So if you’re out there today and you want to change your life, you want to give yourself an incredible gift, you want a life-changing experience, you want to learn how to start and grow a company,

go to Thrivetimeshow.com. Go there right now. Thrivetimeshow.com. Request a ticket for the two-day interactive event again today here’s march six and seven march six and seven we just got confirmation robert kiyosaki best-selling author rich dad poor dad he’ll be here eric trump on the man who leads the trump organization it’s going to be a

blasty blast there’s no upsells uh… eric i could not be more excited about this event i think it is incredible and there’s somebody out there right now you’re you’re watching and you’re like but i’ve already signed up for this incredible other program called smoke your way to thin. I think that’s gonna change your life I promise you this will be ten times better than that It’s like I picked the wrong week. We smoke. I don’t do the smoke your way to thin

Conference that is I’ve tried it don’t do it. Yeah, chain smoking is not a viable. I mean it is life-changing It is life-changing if you become a chain smoker it is like changing best weight loss program though. Right. Not really. So if you’re looking to have life-changing results in a way that won’t cause you to have a stoma, get your tickets at Thrivetimeshow.com.

Again that’s Aaron Antis, I’m Clay Clark, reminding you and inviting you to come out to the two-day interactive Thrivetimeshow workshop right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I promise you it will be a life-changing experience. We can’t wait to see you right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

 

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