Clay Clark | Part 3 – The Science Of Personal Achievement With Clifton Taulbert

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So many different times in my life, I’ve played with broken or hurt things, broken foot, broken leg, broken hand, broken arm, broken sternum, broken collarbone. I could keep going if I just thought more about bones. Why, man? Because I loved it. I loved playing the game. I was passionate about it. One of the reasons I even get encouraged at seeing all of you here, you know why I get encouraged by that is because you could be anywhere doing a lot of different things, but you chose to be here Some shows don’t need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show But this show does in a world filled with endless opportunities Why would two men who have built 13 multi-million dollar businesses? five hours per day to teach you the best practice business systems and moves that you can use. Because they believe in you and they have a lot of time on their hands. This started from the bottom, now they’re here. It’s the Thrive Time Show starring the former U.S. Small Business Administration’s Entrepreneur of the Year, Clay Clark, and the entrepreneur trapped inside an optometrist’s body. Dr. Robert Zurnack. Two men, eight kids, co-created by two different women. Thirteen multi-million dollar businesses. We started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, and I’ll show you how to get here. Started from the bottom, now we’re here. We started from the bottom, now we’re here to climb Started from the bottom, now we’re at the top Teaching people systems to get what we got Colton Dixon’s on the hoops, I break down the books She’s bringing some wisdom and the good looks As the father of five, that’s why I’m alive So if you see my wife and kids, please tell them hi It’s the C and T up on your radio And now 3, 2, 1, here we go! We started from the bottom, now we’re here to climb Started from the bottom, let me show you how to get this On the flip side of that, you know, a little bit is, you know, you could give those gift of verbal bouquets and those gifts of words and positive affirmation. You can catch somebody doing something right and you can positively affirm them. But being open to feedback is where you’re listening to the feedback from others. And a lot of times as an entrepreneur, you’re going to be told your idea is bad. I remember when I started my DJ business. It’s a mobile entertainment company. I’ll never forget, and I will not use the guy’s name, but you know who you are, you beautiful man. He was like, this is a terrible idea. You mean you want to DJ? Like a full-time disc jockey? What are you going to do, like, Monday through Friday? No one has a party on a Tuesday. How are you going to support your family? And just this endless stream of criticism about the craziness of the idea. But in that, I had to still be open to feedback from other people. Because I went across the hallway and Jason White who’s your nephew I was telling him my idea and I was kind of you know not wanting to hear feedback at that point because I was just got this negativity dropped on me and Jason’s like I don’t like your name or your company but I do like the name DJ Connection and I’m going what he’s a DJ Connection I remember saying no it’s not gonna be DJ Connection. I don’t remember what the name was, but it’s going to be this. I was so mad at this other person who had just gave me negative feedback, you know, personal, like just this is a bad idea. I was not even listening. And Jason goes, you’re connecting people to DJs. It’s DJ Connection. And then we sat there, and we kind of came up with the D. In the D, there’s a circle that could be the record. And the J could be the turntable arm, and the C could be headphones. And I almost missed that name, which ended up being the name of the company that I wore on my t-shirts for 10 years. It became where I started, because I wasn’t open to feedback. So how do you, because you get rejected all the time. I know you do. How do you maintain this openness to feedback when you also have to have that Teflon thick skin to deal with rejection? How do you balance it? I always try to remember that tomorrow comes tomorrow. Okay. And tomorrow is not today. It always comes tomorrow. And I may not be able to reach out and touch it, but I’m not going to mess up tomorrow by being idiotic today. So when I get negative feedback, and I do, even when I was writing, my friends said, you’ll never be a writer. We’re soldiers. Not only were we soldiers, but these were guys that were really hard-hitting men. They wanted to drink. They wanted to go to the bars. Did you have muscles during this phase of your life? Not really. And so here I am wanting to write. They said, you ain’t gonna do, nobody gonna read what you write. And I remember when my second book came out, The Last Train North, I was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize and it won the first African American to win the Mississippi Institute of Arts and Letters Award for nonfiction. I was writing about my life in the military and about a lot of those friends. So Parade Magazine did a huge story on that. It went all over the country. All of my buddies that were on my wing, I started getting letters from them. And they were saying, you didn’t write about me! Why didn’t you write about me? They were some of the same guys that said, it ain’t going to work. But you have to know inside of yourself, yeah, it may not work today. I may have to do a lot to make it work, but I’m willing to do it. How do you filter it though? Here’s an example. You and I were at a meeting today where I was putting myself out there, sharing a concept with some people. And we were at Thrive, just so you guys know how this works. All of us have invested money to teach and to mentor millions. And all of us have put in capital. But you need a lot of capital, a lot of technology, a lot of office space, a lot of talented people. And we’re out there meeting with some venture capital people to really take this to the next level. I mean, to get, we want to make that education affordable for you at a price point that’s low, so we have to do it on a big scale in order to do that. And you get criticism, you get feedback, you get, hey, I like this, but I don’t like that. What about this? What about that? I have found that the way I keep myself open to feedback, and if I don’t say this, it doesn’t happen. I like to say, what can I do to make it better? That’s my question I ask. And if I find, if I go with the attitude of what can I do to make it better, it kind of makes me want that feedback. Yeah. I mean, and that, because people, all the answers that you’re seeking for may not be in your briefcase. Yeah. You know, they may be in another briefcase. So by having the mindset again that you’re talking about, that other people matter, which means their conversations matter as well. And so putting yourself in the position to receive feedback, both the good and the bad, because you’re going to get both, but being able to, once you get out of that setting, to ferret between it and look at, okay, I can have this. It’s just like eating a fish. You know, fish got bones in it. So what do you do? You put the bones on one side and you eat the meat. A funny story about eating the wrong part of the food. I got taken out to a nice Indian restaurant a couple years ago, and, or Thai, it was a Thai restaurant, and you’re not supposed to eat the bamboo shoots, and I did that. Really? Yeah, it was a bad experience. So just don’t eat the fish bones, don’t eat the bamboo, that’s kind of an extra bonus principle. You just want to avoid the fish bones and the bamboo shoots. Yeah, I don’t know about the bamboo, but there’s no reason to eat the fish bones. Yeah, don’t eat the bamboo. I’m just telling you there are some problems that come with that. So just be careful. It’s a dangerous world out there. Now, the next one is do not accept what you do not desire. Explain that one to me. Well, here’s what my wife says. My wife says, Honey, I want to put in a home office here, and I would like you to be home at 6. You know, 6 o’clock. And in my mind, six is like 16. So you want me home at like two in the morning? No, six. My wife will say, honey, honey, we need a house with three rooms and this many and I want to stay home with our children. And she has these certain expectations that she had. And I found that when she would kind of push back when I would try to settle for something less than the ideal, when I tried to share the idea that I had to work till 10 o’clock seven days a week or when I would try to say we could just live in a really really small house or when I would try to explain to her that my company couldn’t grow because I’m a DJ and you can’t teach people to be funny she would never accept it. Or at Disney when the staff, Lee Cockrell, and his 47,000 employees, he’s a Thrive mentor at Disney World, he said that you know you have to push back against the desire to have a filthy place because an amusement park can get gross really quickly, but yet he wouldn’t accept it. And in your world, I’ve noticed that most people are not successful authors. Let’s be real. For every one successful author, what, there’s a thousand that aren’t, or hundreds? And you refuse to accept that you had written a book that would not sell. Yeah, I, I, I, you know, I, well, as you know, I just have a new book now that’s coming out. Yeah. And I’m telling myself, I said, this book is for the world, period. Period. I mean, I’m not stopping at a city, a state, or whatever. I’m saying this book, this conversation is for the world, and that’s why I wrote it. But you don’t accept it. You just say, if somebody says, well, you know, this book, we’ll just put it on this little shelf in this little bookstore, maybe sell a few copies. You don’t accept it. No, but here’s the point, when you do not accept that, you also put yourself in the position of doing something about it. You have to factor yourself into that equation. You can’t leave your life totally in the hands of somebody else. Here’s kind of the next principle about the science of personal achievement and how we get into this, is that successful people, whenever I meet these people, they almost always exclusively focus on what they can control. I’ll give you some examples of things I don’t see a lot of successful people worrying about. You tell me if you agree here. Weather. I don’t see a whole lot of successful people not going to work or getting all upset because the weather is bad today. They just kind of plunge along. The economy. The economy is good. The economy is bad. Either way, they’re going to still work hard. How they were raised. They have a mom. They don’t have a mom. They have a dad. It just seems like they’re kind of… it affects them, but they’re not like deterred by it. They just keep moving in spite of those things. Entrepreneurs are very resourceful. They just figure stuff out there. How is it that you… what do you try to focus… what in your mind can you control? You know, what can you control and what can you not control? I can’t control much. Okay. That’s the first thing. But I think I like what you were saying because I know I can’t control the weather. And because I can’t control the weather and there are certain things that I have to do that I want to do, I just find out ways to do it. I don’t say, oh, that’s the weather, therefore. No, I’ve got to do rather than focusing on it’s like Don Quixote You know windmills in the sand, you know trying to figure out something that you can’t do a thing about You just there but what I can do I can get snow tires, okay I’m just saying you’re very resourceful though I’ve seen you as an example when you when this guy sold his, when you sold your first Stairmaster, at three, you only sold one, the first one you ever sold to the government, and at three in the morning on the day after you sold it, you’re in a truck driving to where? Middleton, Tennessee. From Tulsa. To the Naval Air Base. So he opted a car, Google map this stuff, you drove from Tulsa to Middleton, Tennessee all night just to make sure that the StairMaster was in working condition. Right. See, that’s not normal. No, but here’s the point. I wanted to make sure that my customer was satisfied because they had placed faith in me. That order to me was a faith in me. I remember a few years ago, I always book my speaking events, I always land in town the day before I speak. Because if I’m on a flight, it’s going to be delayed. If you ever travel with me, we’re going to get late. That’s just what happens. It’s not because I missed the flight. I’m always on the plane. It’s just the plane is delayed. I’m supposed to go speak near Green Bay. I fly in the night before I get there. It’s a true story. And I go to get my rental car. Well, they’re out. They’re out of rental cars. What do you mean you’re out? I reserved it. Oh, well, sorry, we just were out. You’re out. Okay. So then I go to get another car. Well, something like the old credit card fraud stuff where someone can charge your card and then start spending money. So my wife had called to cancel the card because there was fraud on it, you know, and something or I don’t remember the whole story, but you know point is I didn’t have a card so now I’m in Wisconsin With no actual cash no credit card Credit cards that are working because of the cancer and I’m going I have to get to This speaking event they’re counting on me Yeah So I went cab to cab not one cab cab to cab to cab to cab to cab and finally this And finally, this gentleman, who I only mentioned that he’s Islamic because he was going through the month of Ramadan, where you don’t eat during a certain time of the day. I’ll drive you. He doesn’t speak that much English. And I said, well, I have no cash. But what I can do is when we get to the place, my wife can give you a credit card over the phone right now so you’ll know it’s real. He’s like, we can’t punch him and you have to swipe it. I’m like, OK. I can get the card when we get to a certain place and then I can you know go to the bank and withdraw cash advance and Pay you I ended up paying the guy I think like $1,200 for like an eight-hour trip there and back and I had to stay in the hotel with the guy who’s crazy You know I learned everything there was to know about where he’s from and I actually he was into dates He’s serving me dates. You know anyway. That’s a bizarre Bizarre relationship, but it wasn’t it never occurred to me that we’re not going. Yeah, I understand that. When you give your word and people are depending on you, you really want to go out as far as you humanly possibly can to make sure that it happens. Now I’m going to give you one example too. You recently had a surgery. I won’t get into the details unless you want to, but you had a surgery and you had a speaking event you had to give on the day that you were like in the peak of pain. And you did it anyway. And I have a friend who knew you were in pain and he was like, I’ve never seen a dude deliver a talk in that much physical pain. I was sweating. You were wincing? It was popping off my face. I mean… Like KD Jake’s kind of sweat. This was sick sweat. Just coming off my face, but I don’t have it in me to let people down. I don’t know how to do that. Sam Walton, in the last week or two of his life, he had cancer that had spread to a point where he was in physical pain to walk. He made a commitment that he would always visit the stores. There’s a story, but the staff was all crying. If you read his book, Made in America, you can’t not cry when you read it. But he physically was walking around the store so slow, but out of duty he had told the staff that he was going to serve his job up until that point where he committed. You saw the same behavior with Steve Jobs, where here he is on his deathbed, but he’s still giving his last talk because he said he would. It’s just that sort of commitment that you need, right? You know, commitment is really who you are. And in the world of business, work, or even family, your commitment really sends a signal to what people can expect. But it also helps people to understand what they can expect of themselves. It gives them a picture of what is possible, how commitment looks. You can talk commitment all day long, but people have to literally see commitment to understand what it is. Before you can commit to something, you have to be completely focused on that purpose. You need to focus. We’re kind of going back to that purpose a little bit. You have to completely focus on your definite major purpose. So here’s the deal. One of the guys we talked to today, remember the question he asked me, he said, well, you have nine different businesses you’re involved. Are we going to get one-ninth of you? That was a great, I mean I said myself, my gosh, if I’m going to invest, that is a good question to ask. How much of you am I going to get? Well and I was offensive, I told him off and we got kicked out. I’m just kidding. But I did, I responded to the question. No, it was a good response. And I responded to the question, but it was a deal. When you’re, you know, talking to a bunch of venture capitalists, that’s the tough question. They want to know. And here is the thing, we have to completely focus on it. And so this is the thing, men. If you’re married, we have to completely focus on our wife. That’s our, that’s, she’s the prize. And if we have kids, we have to completely focus on the kids. Or if we have a business, we completely focus on it. And I know entrepreneurs, there’s this term that I get called sometimes, I don’t like it because it implies chaos. I get called it because people think one thing, but when you get down to it, it’s different. They’ll say, you’re a serial entrepreneur because you have a few different businesses, and so you’re a serial entrepreneur, meaning you move from one idea to the next. There’s a lot of people I know who like the new car smell, the new house, the new wife, the new car, it’s just new, new, new, new, new. You have to focus. You’ve got to stop doing the whole new thing, right? I mean, to become a successful entrepreneur, don’t you have to completely, how do you do that? How do you focus on that definite major purpose, Clifton? How do you do it? I think as I hear you talking about the word focus and the word entrepreneur, the entrepreneur, that’s a noun, but entrepreneurial thinking is the outcome of the mindset of that person that allows them to do what they do on a consistent basis. And so the Steve Jobs or whomever that continues to work, Sam Walton, that continues to do those things that they need to do in spite of the circumstances that are there. How does one come to that conclusion? It is not something that happens BAM! It is something that has started happening all throughout your career. And it just continues to grow and continues to grow and continues to define who you are. There is a gentleman today who I called at 4 in the morning. I think it was 4 in the morning, about 4 in the morning. I called and said, hey, here’s the deal. The video that we’re supposed to get done is supposed to be done now. Well, he had thought in his defense, he thought it was the next day. No, no, no, no, no, no, we have to do it now. You can tell if somebody is going to be successful when they start making those little habits of saying, I’ll be there in a minute, four in the morning. But the guy who says, you know, oh, I wasn’t planning on coming in at four in the morning. Can we just let it slide? There’s a big difference in that commitment and that ability to focus on their purpose. You can tell in this young man’s life that his purpose is to honor his promises. Well, you know, we’re in the coffee business. And we’re almost out of coffee. So I’m calling the roasting plant. I said, guys, we’re almost out. I said, you don’t understand. I can’t be out. I said, I can’t be out. I said, I have customers that will not understand the excuse. No matter how legitimate it is, I can’t be out. And on the other end of the phone, he said, you won’t be out. I’ll call you back. And I gave me a comfort level, even though I didn’t know what the outcome would be, I knew that somehow I was going to be close to being where I needed to be. And kind of an attempt to shameless plug for your awesome, awesome coffee, I’m going to need some mugs that we put out here of your coffee so we can put. Can you tell the folks at home what the name of your coffee is? Yeah, it’s Roots Java. Roots Java. Rootsjava.com. What makes it different? I’m there. Oh, yeah But it’s incredible coffee, okay, we imported from Rwanda Rwanda. Yeah, okay, so you’re it’s your it’s Rwandan imported coffee and again, it’s called roots Java roots Java shameless plug roots Java I’m thinking it’s not really shameless Because you know we’re buying our coffee beans from some of an incredible set of entrepreneurs in the country of Rwanda these guys who survived the genocide and still alive and their kids and they now are growing their own, have their own little small farms and bringing their coffee down from the mountains. Man, it’s incredible. Even in the way you’re paying the people who grow the coffee, you’re paying them well so they can live out of poverty and prosperity. I remember not being paid well. Trust me, I’m not going to be remembered for not paying people well. Okay. All right. All right. Now, you know, the cure for feeling sorry for yourself is service. If you’re watching this right now, maybe you’re going through a tough time. I know that like with my dad, I’ve spent a tough time. And I shared this story on a different Thrive episode, but it’s phenomenal. On the day that we found out some bad news about my dad’s cancer. Another guy who works in our office, his father had passed away at the exact time that where I’m finding out about my, is his dad was in great health and he just dies. Now that’s not fun, it’s tough. This young man has the psychological awareness, the cognitive awareness, the mental fortitude, the attitude, the whole package, enough to call me to say that he’s not coming into work for the day because his father has passed away. And, how’s my father doing? Are you kidding me? You know? So here he was at the bottom. I’m sure he felt horrible. I’m sure it’s still tough. But he cured himself by asking how we’re doing. Now, his crazy sister who works on our team here, and they bring my alkaline water for my father who’s dealing with cancer, and that’s a great way to treat that is with alkaline water. It’s the service. And I see this family, it’s like, they’re not gonna be victims, they’re gonna be victors, you know? So in your career, how have you been able to cure yourself from feeling sorry with service? What’s an example of how you’ve done that in your career? Well, you’re really looking at what I call the end result of that person’s efforts, his or her life. And you like what you see. And because you like what you see, now you start traveling back to see what they’ve done to get that. And you begin to look at those actions and say, I like this outcome. But in order to get this outcome, I’m gonna have to travel back to get a sense of what they did, how frequently they did it, what their attitude was while they were doing it. And you began to get somewhat of a pattern of what brings about those outcomes that you want. So you began to keep that person in your viewfinder. You began to say, well, you know, I could, I may not do it exactly the same way they do it, but I like that action, and I’m gonna bring that into my life as well. You’re a white collar, tie-wearing guy. You’ve always wanted to, you know, dress sharp and work in a professional environment and start in the cotton fields. You remembered that, didn’t you? Yeah, that’s what you wanted to do. And I know that when I met you, it’s a spark in my mind, I was like, you know, I really, I get asked to do speaking events all the time. People ask me to come teach them how to start a company, but it never occurred to me to really write a book. And then through watching you do it, I was, I remember asking you, well, when do you write yours? And you told me something. You said, well, when I’m in a hotel, if I’m traveling, you know, I’ll write then or I’ll write. And I try to, you know, you kind of laid out how you wrote. And then I was talking, I asked you about how you maintain this great relationship with your wife, Barbara. And you’ve been, how long have you guys been married now? Forty years. Yeah, so I was asking. That’s a long time. And Barbara just turned 27, so it’s kind of a weird deal. She exfoliates a lot. That’s how she keeps her youthful complexion. But, in all sincerity, I looked at you as the guy who’s written a best-selling book, been a best-selling business, been successful in this, you’ve been successful in that, you started a bank, your life’s been made into a movie, success, success, success. But I also look at it, good dad, good husband. So to me, I started to try to emulate what you have done, just little nuances, and try to incorporate those into what I do. And I think we all need to do that more. You know, that to me is the, you know, I look at at people helping people, being on this planet and realizing that everyone brings something to the table. And it’s like a smorgasbord of opportunity within the human family and picking those things that best suit your appetite for the moment and that can help you get what you need and move further than where you thought you could. Now this one I would like if you would go ahead and openly criticize me if you’d like to because we’ve had this discussion and I think it’s important for people to watch this to know where my feelings have been so you can improve because easier if you watch what I’ve done wrong and hopefully won’t happen to you but I know it says here the next principles cultivate the tone of your voice and I know that I can be if left to my devices caustic I can be surly I can be sarcastic I can even say things that you, as a man who grew up in the South, on the plantation, or in the cotton field, I should say, and you grew up in a segregated community, that’s comments that could be offensive. And you’ve taught me, hey, I don’t think that’s what you meant to say, but this is what I just heard. Can you talk to me about how important it is to cultivate your tone of voice and maybe some of the things you teach people like me when they’re… You know, in the world of business and in life and preparing to be in business wherever you are, you’re just going to run into a great variety of people. And first and foremost, it’s important to realize that as people, we all live with and among each other and we bring great gifts to each other. But there’s another reality is that we can segment people, we can have terminology that may sound okay to us, but it may not sound good to another person. Can we, I’m just going to throw an example of a word I can’t use just so you can tell me why, you know, so as we’re making thrive, right, you make thrive and this thrive is for everybody. It doesn’t matter where you’re from and the whole idea is living at your peak, helping you grow from where you are to where you want to be. And if I were to say, well, that’s a conservative or that’s a liberal, why is it not healthy to put people into that conservative or liberal description if you’re talking about American politics? Well, you know, I would say that life is on a continuum. And if you look through the history of politics in America or wherever, it changes. Circumstances changes things. People change things. And to define everybody strictly one way all the time, I think we miss out on who the people or that person really is. And I think there’s always a person under the label. Get to know the person. When I buy something from the store, you know, we use and it comes in a jar, a mason jar, we usually take the label off and wash the label away because we got the stuff that’s in it. It’s gone. It’s the stuff that’s in it that’s important, not the label. And, you know, people are more important than the labels we give them. So how would you recommend that we cultivate our tone of voice? Is it just being self-aware and making sure that you’re really using the words that you mean when you say or you’re cultivating? I mean is it just being self-aware of how you say things and how you say things and what you say? I think there’s a word called empathy. Empathy. That’s a new word. That’s a word called empathy. I mean you’re placing yourself in another person’s shoe. You’re placing yourself at another person’s table. So you begin to think in terms of if I were there, what would that do to me or what would that say to me? And I think as we live in a much broader society where the transactions are between such a great diversity of people, that we have to be more attuned to the humanity that we share rather than the nuances of our differences. Now, the final principle here in our science of personal achievement and looking at what successful people do and the kind of mindsets that they have that allow them to get from where they started to where they end up at the top of their profession or career. Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve. Now we’ve heard, this quote’s been attributed to Napoleon Hill, we’ve heard quotes similar that are attributed to Henry Ford or Walt Disney, but the concept that what the mind can think about, it can bring about. Can you talk to me in your life how you’ve seen that happen, where you literally took something that was just a far-removed idea and watched it turn into reality? Can you think of that? My whole life, and I’m not being facetious, because I look at the place where I started and I look at the assets that I had in order to make this journey what it is today. And I realized that I could have very easily failed. I mean, there was enough stuff around me to make failure a reality. But instead, I began to look at what was possible. I began to believe what I could do. And I began to focus on that in a very intentional way throughout my life. So I look at my own life as a prime example of what one can really, truly do. I have had about 17 epiphanies here tonight. And I appreciate all of this that you’ve shared with us because it really blows my mind. And I want to encourage everybody watching this, if you have not yet read your book, Once Upon a Time When We Were Colored, is it? That was my very first book. That book blew my mind. Cliffson, I appreciate you taking the time to be with us here tonight. And I know you have a lot of places you could be, and a lot of places maybe you should be. But I appreciate you doing that, because I know that you’ve lit a spark for somebody watching this. And again, I just want to thank you so much. My pleasure. Appreciate it. My pleasure. JT, do you know what time it is? Um, 410. It’s T-Bo time in Tulsa, Roseland, baby! Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma. During the month of Christmas, December 5th and 6th, 2024, Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma, in the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show Business Growth Workshop. Yes, folks, put it in your calendar this December, the month of Christmas, December 5th and 6th. Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma in the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive business growth workshop. We’ve been doing business conferences here since 2005. I’ve been hosting business conferences since 2005. What year were you born? 1995. Dude, I’ve been hosting business conferences since you were 10 years old. And a lot of people, you know, have followed Tim Tebow’s football career on the field and off the field. And off the field, the guy’s been just as successful as he has been on the field. Now, the big question is, JT, how does he do it? Hmm. Well, they’re going to have to come and find out because I don’t know. Well, I’m just saying Tim Tebow is going to teach us how he organizes his day, how he organizes his life, how he’s proactive with his faith, his family, his finances. He’s going to walk us through his mindset that he brings into the gym, into business. It is going to be a blasty blast in Tulsa, Russia. Folks, I’m telling you, if you want to learn branding, you want to learn marketing, you want to learn search engine optimization, you want to learn social media marketing, that’s what we teach at the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive workshop. If you want to learn accounting, you want to learn sales systems, you want to learn how to build a linear workflow, you want to learn how to franchise your business, that is what we teach at the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show business workshop. Over the years, we’ve had the opportunity to feature Michael Levine, the PR consultant of choice for Nike, for Prince, for Michael Jackson. The top PR consultant in the history of the planet has spoken at the Thrive Time Show workshops. We’ve had Jill Donovan, the founder of rusticcuff.com, a company that creates apparel worn by celebrities all throughout the world. Jill Donovan, the founder of rustic cuff.com, has spoken at the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show business workshops. We have the guy, we’ve had the man who’s responsible for turning around Harley Davidson, a man by the name of Ken Schmidt. He has spoken at the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive business workshops. Folks, I’m telling you these events are going to teach you what you need to know to start and grow a successful business. And the way we price the events, the way we do these events, is you can pay $250 for a ticket or whatever price that you can afford. Yes, we’ve designed these events to be affordable for you and we want to see you live and in person at the two-day interactive, December 5th and 6th Thrive Time Show Business Workshop. Everything that you need to succeed will be taught at the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show business workshop December 5th and 6th in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And the way we do these events is we teach for 30 minutes and then we open it up for a question and answer session so that wonderful people like you can have your questions answered. Yes, we teach for 30 minutes and then we open it up for a 15-minute question and answer session. It’s interactive, it’s two days, it’s in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We’ve been doing these events since 2005, and I’m telling you folks, it’s going to blow your mind. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive business workshop is America’s highest rated and most reviewed business workshop. See the thousands of video testimonials from real people just like you who’ve been able to build multi-million dollar companies. Watch those testimonials today at thrivetimeshow.com simply by clicking on the testimonials button right there at Thrivetimeshow.com. You’re going to see thousands of people just like you who have been able to go from just surviving to thriving. Each and every day we’re going to add more and more speakers to this all-star lineup, but I encourage everybody out there today, get those tickets today. Go to Thrivetimeshow.com. Again, that’s Thrivetimeshow.com. And some people might be saying, well, how do I do it? I don’t know what I do, but it has it work. You just go to thrive timeshow.com. Let’s go there now. We’re feeling the flow. We’re going to thrive. And you just go to thrive timeshow.com. You click on the business conferences button and you click on the request tickets button right there. The way I do our conferences is we tell people it’s $250 to get a ticket or whatever price that you could afford. And the reason why I do that is I grew up without money. JT, you’re in the process of building a super successful company. Did you start out with a million dollars in the bank account? No, I did not. Nope, did not get any loans, nothing like that. Did not get an inheritance from parents or anything like that. I had to work for it, and I am super grateful. I came to a business conference. That’s actually how I met you, met Peter Taunton. I met all these people. So if you’re out there today and you want to come to our workshop, again, you just got to go to thrivetimeshow.com. You might say, well, who’s speaking? We already covered that. You might say, where is it going to be? It’s going to be in Tulsa, Russell Oklahoma. It’s supposed to be Tulsa, Russell. I’m really trying to rebrand Tulsa as Tulsa, Russell. I’m sort of like the Jerusalem of America. But if you type in Thrive Time Show and Jinx, you can get a sneak peek or a look at our office facility. This is what it looks like. This is where you’re headed. It’s going to be a blasty blast. You can look inside, see the facility. We’re going to have hundreds of entrepreneurs here. It is going to be packed. Now for this particular event folks, the seating is always limited because my facility isn’t a limitless convention center. You’re coming to my actual home office and so it’s going to be packed. Who? You! You’re going to come. I’m talking to you. You can get your tickets right now at thrivetimeshow.com and again you can name your price. We tell people it’s $250 or whatever price you can afford and we do have some select VIP tickets which gives you an access to meet some of the speakers and those sorts of things. And those tickets are $500. It’s a two-day interactive business workshop, over 20 hours of business training. We’re going to give you a copy of my newest book, The Millionaire’s Guide to Becoming Sustainably Rich. You’re going to leave with a workbook. You’re going to leave with everything you need to know to start and grow a super successful company. It’s practical. It’s actionable. And it’s TiVo time right here in Tulsa, Russia. Get those tickets today at thrivetimeshow.com again that’s thrivetimeshow.com Hello I’m Michael Levine and I’m talking to you right now from the center of Hollywood, California where I have represented over the last 35 years 58 Academy Award winners, 34 Grammy Award winners, 43 New York Times bestsellers. I’ve represented a lot of major stars and I’ve worked with a lot of major companies and I think I’ve learned a few things about what makes them work and what makes them not work. Now why would a man living in Hollywood California in the beautiful sunny weather of LA come to Tulsa? Because last year I did it and it was damn exciting. Clay Clark has put together an exceptional presentation. Really life changing. And I’m looking forward to seeing you then. I’m Michael Levine, I’ll see you in Tulsa. Thrive Time Show two day interactive business workshops are the world’s highest rated and most reviewed business workshops because we teach you what you need to know to grow. You can learn the proven 13 point business systems that Dr. Zellner and I have used over and over to start and grow successful companies. We get into the specifics, the specific steps on what you need to do to optimize your website. We’re going to teach you how to fix your conversion rate. We’re going to teach you how to do a social media marketing campaign that works. How do you raise capital? How do you get a small business loan? We teach you everything you need to know here during a two day, 15 hour workshop. It’s all here for you. You work every day in your business, but for two days you can escape and work on your business and build these proven systems, so now you can have a successful company that will produce both the time freedom and the financial freedom that you deserve. You’re gonna leave energized, motivated, but you’re also gonna leave empowered. The reason why I built these workshops is because as an entrepreneur, I always wish that I had this. And because there wasn’t anything like this I would go to these Motivational seminars no money down real estate Ponzi scheme get motivated seminars, and they would never teach me anything It was like you went there, and you paid for the big chocolate Easter bunny, but inside of it. It was a hollow Nothingness, and I wanted the knowledge like oh, but we’ll teach you the knowledge after our next workshop And the great thing is we have nothing to upsell. At every workshop we teach you what you need to know. There’s no one in the back of the room trying to sell you some next big get rich quick, walk on hot coals product. It’s literally we teach you the brass tacks, the specific stuff that you need to know to learn how to start and grow a business. I encourage you to not believe what I’m saying, and I want you to Google elephant in the room. Look at Robert Zellner and Associates. Look them up and say, are they successful because they’re geniuses or are they successful because they have a proven system? When you do that research, you will discover that the same systems that we use in our own business can be used in your business. Come to Tulsa, book a ticket, and I guarantee you it’s going to be the best business workshop ever and we’re going to give you your money back if you don’t love it. We built this facility for you and we’re excited to see it. And now you may be thinking, what does it actually cost to attend an in-person two-day interactive Thrive Time Show business workshop? Well, good news, the tickets are $250 or whatever price that you can afford. What? Yes, they’re $250 or whatever price you can afford. I grew up without money and I know what it’s like to live without money. So if you’re out there today and you want to attend our in-person, two-day, interactive business workshop, all you’ve got to do is go to Thrivetimeshow.com to request those tickets. And if you can’t afford $250, we have scholarship pricing available to make it affordable for you. I learned at the Academy in Kings Point, New York, acta non verba. Watch what a person does, not what they say. Good morning, good morning, good morning. Harvard Kiyosaki, The Rich Dad Radio Show. Today I’m broadcasting from Phoenix, Arizona, not Scottsdale, Arizona. They’re close, but they’re completely different worlds. I have a special guest today. The definition of intelligence is if you agree with me, you’re intelligent. And so this gentleman is very intelligent. I’ve done this show before also, but very seldom do you find somebody who lines up on all counts. And so Mr. Clay Clark is a friend of a good friend, Eric Trump. But we’re also talking about money, bricks, and how screwed up the world can get in a few and a half hour. So Clay Clark is a very intelligent man, and there’s so many ways we could take this thing but I thought since you and Eric are close, Trump, what were you saying about what Trump can’t what Donald who’s my age and I can say or cannot say? Well first of all I have to honor you sir I want to show you what I did to one of your books here. There’s a guy named Jeremy Thorne who was my boss at the time. I was 19 years old working at Faith Highway. I had a job at Applebee’s, Target, and DirecTV. He said, have you read this book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad? I said no. My father, may he rest in peace, he didn’t know these financial principles. I started reading all of your books and really devouring your books. I went from being an employee to self-employed, to the business owner, to the investor. I owe a lot of that to you. I just want to take a moment to tell you thank you so much for allowing me to achieve success and I’ll tell you all about Eric Trump. I just want to tell you thank you sir for changing my life. Well not only that Clay, you know thank you but you’ve become an influencer. You know more than anything else you’ve evolved into an influencer where your word has more and more power so that’s why I congratulate you on becoming because as you know there’s a lot of fake influencers out there too, or bad influencers. Yeah. Anyway, I’m glad you and I agree so much and thanks for reading my books. Yeah. That’s the greatest thrill for me today. Not a thrill, but recognition is when people, young men especially, come up and say, I read your book, changing a life, I’m doing this, I’m doing this, I’m doing this. I learned at the Academy, King’s Point in New York, I learned at the Academy, King’s Point in New York, acta non verba, watch what a person does, not what they say.